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What evidence of a conspiracy would we expect to find?
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 02, 2026, 09:53:05 PM ---It should be easy to prove me wrong. Just present evidence that somebody other than Oswald was complicit in the JFKA. Got any?
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Well, yes I do, if Ragano statements were true. Jesus, for someone who think he's so clever, you seem almost brain dead.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on June 02, 2026, 10:48:34 PM ---Well, yes I do, if Ragano statements were true. Jesus, for someone who think he's so clever, you seem almost brain dead.
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I ask for evidence and you give me a big fat IF. Since when do unsworn hearsay statements become evidence. Do you even understand what constitutes evidence? You sure haven't given any indication that you do.
Benjamin Cole:
LP--
Interesting question.
I think both SBT'ers-LNT'ers and CT'ers got off the track by either formulating that there was a large conspiracy, or then refuting the obvious flaws in large CT's.
A small, informal or ad hoc conspiracy, of low level Alpha 66'ers or G-2'ers, which left no written evidence behind, and which was only tangentially connected to any institution is my preferred CT narrative.
Detecting such a conspiracy would be difficult, say if LHO was dead ad the other two perps kept quiet. Then what? Who knows anything?
The WC had an inclination from the start to go LNT; we know that from LBJ's instructions to Russell and Warren.
(I can't get past Gov. JBC holding his Stetson at Z-272, or his body being thrust forward at ~Z-295.
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
The evidence (there is that hallowed word!) seen in the Z-film is indisputable; Connally is pushed forward ~Z-295.
I doubt JBC could hold onto to his Stetson hat after being shot through the wrist by a large "tumbling" slug.
Yet, JFK is indisputably shot at Z-313.
The GK smoke-and-bag show indicates another perp as well.)
The Mafia? Possibly, but there seems to be oodles of connections between LHO and intel agencies, and very little linking him to the Mob.
Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on June 03, 2026, 03:08:25 AM ---LP--
Interesting question.
I think both SBT'ers-LNT'ers and CT'ers got off the track by either formulating that there was a large conspiracy, or then refuting the obvious flaws in large CT's.
A small, informal or ad hoc conspiracy, of low level Alpha 66'ers or G-2'ers, which left no written evidence behind, and which was only tangentially connected to any institution is my preferred CT narrative.
Detecting such a conspiracy would be difficult, say if LHO was dead ad the other two perps kept quiet. Then what? Who knows anything?
The WC had an inclination from the start to go LNT; we know that from LBJ's instructions to Russell and Warren. {/quote]
Do tell us what those instructions were. Documentation would be nice.
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(I can't get past Gov. JBC holding his Stetson at Z-272, or his body being thrust forward at ~Z-295.
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
The evidence (there is that hallowed word!) seen in the Z-film is indisputable; Connally is pushed forward ~Z-295.
I doubt JBC could hold onto to his Stetson hat after being shot through the wrist by a large "tumbling" slug.
Yet, JFK is indisputably shot at Z-313.
The GK smoke-and-bag show indicates another perp as well.)
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It must have been The Invisible Man since no one saw him. He must have been a lousy shot as well since he didn't hit anything.
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The Mafia? Possibly, but there seems to be oodles of connections between LHO and intel agencies, and very little linking him to the Mob.
Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.
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And still no evidence that anybody in the intelligence agencies or organized crime conspired with Oswald to kill JFK.
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Lance Payette:
While looking for something else, I stumbled upon this very thorough overview of the Mafia-did-it theory. A little more about Jack Ruby than I would like because I just can't picture the Mafia relying on him, but a piece that is worth reading. The author, Nicholson Baker, is not just some internet schmoe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholson_Baker.
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/dallas-killers-club
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