William Niedernut and Low Follies at Education Forum-JFKA

[Fred Litwin]

Zartman suspended me for just replying to one of his emails, saying that I was arguing. He always goes after me on the forum.

[Benjamin Cole]

LP:

Amen, Duncan MacRae should moderate a combined JFK-EF-JFKA forum.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Zartman suspended me for just replying to one of his emails, saying that I was arguing. He always goes after me on the forum.

That's pathetic. You're always a gentleman, Fred.

For everyone's information, in a current email chain initiated and moderated by John K. Hofeling that includes many JFKA conspiracy theorists, two people have chimed in that they agree with James Fetzer's obscene claim that Israel and America are the two biggest threats to democracy, that Russia and Iran are good countries, and that Iran is setting a better example than America is setting.

[Benjamin Cole]

The problem with both Zartman and Niedernut is they think (or thought) they were there to be Truth Police at the EF-JFKA. And they knew The Truth. Niedernut also had an insufferable personality.

Zartman actually posted on EF-JFKA that he thought LNT'ers should be banned from the EF-JFKA, and then he later became a moderator. In other words, the EF-JFKA was not a debate forum, but a CT cocoon.

I suppose it does not matter much; the readership of the EF-JFKA must be in the dozens, in a nation of 330 million. Simkin says he spends 10 hours a day writing history tomes. For who? Not the EF-JFKA, which Simkin says is a disappointment to him, due to all the insults that go on.

It looks like the EF-JFKA will continue to peter out; perhaps Niedernut's moderation will ultimately prove lethal, in combination with Simkin's senescence.

I invite EF-JFKA'ers to join this forum and at least try to have collegial conversations.

[Benjamin Cole]

MTG:

Verily, Mossad perped the JFKA. Even Jeff Morley dog-whistled as much of Tucker Carlson's show.

Something ugly is happening on America's left-wing. You see Hasan Piker. The justifications for murdering healthcare industry executives, or Charlie Kirk.

The IRGC gets a pass; no one cares about 40k slaughtered in the streets of Iran.

The exoneration and valorization of Sirhan Sirhan, and the accusations against Mossad, in the RFKA and JFKA.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

[Lance Payette]

The problem with both Zartman and Niedernut is they think (or thought) they were there to be Truth Police at the EF-JFKA. And they knew The Truth. Niedernut also had an insufferable personality.

Zartman actually posted on EF-JFKA that he thought LNT'ers should be banned from the EF-JFKA, and then he later became a moderator. In other words, the EF-JFKA was not a debate forum, but a CT cocoon.

I suppose it does not matter much; the readership of the EF-JFKA must be in the dozens, in a nation of 330 million. Simkin says he spends 10 hours a day writing history tomes. For who? Not the EF-JFKA, which Simkin says is a disappointment to him, due to all the insults that go on.

It looks like the EF-JFKA will continue to peter out; perhaps Niedernut's moderation will ultimately prove lethal, in combination with Simkin's senescence.

I invite EF-JFKA'ers to join this forum and at least try to have collegial conversations.

FWIW, in the thread that was deleted someone described this as an "obscure" forum "mostly for LNers." For what the Ed Forum has become to call another forum "obscure" is a pretty serious case of "Pot, meet kettle." I think they have some notion that there are hundreds if not thousands of lurkers. In fact, I think I recall someone insisting on that when I was a member, perhaps thinking that all the bots were lurkers. That is one problem with any forum like this - the same handful of people saying the same things over and over. If there are substantial numbers of lurkers, I wish they'd chime in and liven things up.

[Benjamin Cole]

LP--

Amen. We are in the dozens, if that. And where is Tom Graves?

In addition, there are now dozens of people on Facebook, Instagram and X, doing the JFKA thing, and splintering the audience.

Beyond all that, the bulk of JFKA-RFKA junkies appear to suffer from colic.