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William Niedernut and Low Follies at Education Forum-JFKA

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Benjamin Cole:
DM--

Yes, the thread has been buried somewhere.

John Corbett:

--- Quote from: Lance Payette on June 03, 2026, 08:50:15 PM ---I noticed that this morning. I have it on good authority that Wm. NiederNut, in his capacity as moderator, suspended Wm. NiederNut, in his capacity as member, for eight months for referring to a longtime member, who is Irish, as a “cognitive-infiltrating semitic turdball.” Mr. NiederNut, in his capacity as member, appealed to John Simkin over the strong objections of Mr. NiederNut in his capacity as moderator. Mr. Simkin reduced the suspension to 90 minutes, infuriating Mr. NiederNut in his capacity as moderator. When the 90 minutes was up, Mr. NiederNut, in his capacity as member, referred to Mr. NiederNut, in his capacity as moderator, as an “ineffectual weenie of a moderator.” This slur led to the intervention of Wm. NiederNut in his capacity as a Harvard-trained psychiatrist. After extensive negotiations, it was decided by a vote of 2-1 (Mr. NiederNut, in his capacity as moderator, dissenting) to pull the plug on the entire thread.

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We used to refer to alt.conspiracy.jfk as "the nuthouse". Sounds like that term could apply to the Ed Forum as well.

Michael T. Griffith:
In fact, a few pro-JFKA conspiracy researchers also argue that the Moon landings were faked, while others reject this nuttiness but cite sources that peddle it. When I've pointed out that a given source claims the Moon landings were faked, the researchers have excused their use of the source with the argument that they don't agree with the source on that one issue. Thankfully, most leftist JFKA researchers do not support the fake Moon landings theory.

Similarly, when I've pointed out that L. Fletcher Prouty praised the goals of the Holocaust-denying IHR, that he spoke at an IHR conference, that he praised the IHR's founder, and that he had one of his books reprinted by the IHR's press, Prouty apologists have offered a variety of lame excuses for these shockingly sleazy actions, and a few of them, such as William Niederhut and Jeff Carter, have said these documented facts are "smears."



Lance Payette:
John Simkin posted today that "the forum currently has only one active moderator, Danny Zartman." So perhaps NiederNut actually has thrown in the towel. Zartman is someone I had previously thought was more or less rational, but his posts in recent years have been ... well ... not exactly rational. The problem, and it exists on every forum in which I've ever participated, is that it's virtually impossible for someone with hardcore views (be they LN or CT in the case of the JFKA) to also serve as a moderator. It just is. I am extremely well-versed in Christian theology and apologetics and am far from an antagonist or unbeliever, but I have been banned - in some cases repeatedly - from literally EVERY Christian forum because they are all moderated by fanatics who can't separate their beliefs from their duties as moderators. Duncan does seem to be a shining example of moderating with an extremely light touch, which I think is pretty much the only form of moderation that works.

Fred Litwin:
Zartman suspended me for just replying to one of his emails, saying that I was arguing. He always goes after me on the forum.

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