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« Reply #14 on: Today at 02:18:14 PM »
Fun to see Michael T. Griffith back here with his usual conspiracy baloney about "recon cars" behind the grassy knoll...

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« Reply #15 on: Today at 02:34:58 PM »
Fun to see Michael T. Griffith back here with his usual conspiracy baloney about "recon cars" behind the grassy knoll...

   SHANKS - Waiting on YOU to back up your claim of that Bogus Motorcycle Cop "mingling" inside Dealey Plaza with others. You like to Pop Off. Well how about you "back up" your claim?  Man Up, or Bow Out.

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« Reply #16 on: Today at 02:41:18 PM »
Fun to see Michael T. Griffith back here with his usual conspiracy baloney about "recon cars" behind the grassy knoll...

Perhaps you would care to tell us what were those three cars doing cruising around the small parking lot behind the grassy knoll shortly before the assassination. Why would three cars "just happen" to cruise around that particular parking lot in three separate trips, with the first car arriving at 11:55, the second at 12:15, and the third at 12:20? Why was one of the driver's talking into a mic?

Just remember that your version of the assassination is accepted by only about 1/4 to 1/3 of the adults in the Western world.

You might pretend to believe that Bowers was either lying or that it is just a whopping, remarkable coincidence that three cars separately cruised around in the parking lot behind the knoll starting just 35 minutes before the shooting, but most people don't see a credible innocent explanation for the cars' actions.

 

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« Reply #17 on: Today at 02:52:00 PM »
Perhaps you would care to tell us what were those three cars doing cruising around the small parking lot behind the grassy knoll shortly before the assassination. Why would three cars "just happen" to cruise around that particular parking lot in three separate trips, with the first car arriving at 11:55, the second at 12:15, and the third at 12:20? Why was one of the driver's talking into a mic?

Just remember that your version of the assassination is accepted by only about 1/4 to 1/3 of the adults in the Western world.

You might pretend to believe that Bowers was either lying or that it is just a whopping, remarkable coincidence that three cars separately cruised around in the parking lot behind the knoll starting just 35 minutes before the shooting, but most people don't see a credible innocent explanation for the cars' actions.

   Like I said, the important part of the Bowers WC Testimony is his documenting the presence of a WHITE SHIRT wearing man down around the bottom of The Steps. And Bowers placed this White Shirt man with the Plaid Shirt man. The White Shirt Man can be seen for only a few frames on the NIX Film. He is running Up The Steps after the Kill Shot. I believe the Disappearance of the ORIGINAL Nix Film is connected to it showing this White Shirt Man.

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« Reply #18 on: Today at 03:34:24 PM »
   Like I said, the important part of the Bowers WC Testimony is his documenting the presence of a WHITE SHIRT wearing man down around the bottom of The Steps. And Bowers placed this White Shirt man with the Plaid Shirt man. The White Shirt Man can be seen for only a few frames on the NIX Film. He is running Up The Steps after the Kill Shot. I believe the Disappearance of the ORIGINAL Nix Film is connected to it showing this White Shirt Man.

I agree that this is an important aspect of Bowers' statements. I think Bowers' account of the three-car recon of the grassy knoll parking lot is equally important as his account of the white-shirt man and the plaid-shirt man. I think both accounts are important.

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« Reply #19 on: Today at 03:42:56 PM »
Perhaps you would care to tell us what were those three cars doing cruising around the small parking lot behind the grassy knoll shortly before the assassination. Why would three cars "just happen" to cruise around that particular parking lot in three separate trips, with the first car arriving at 11:55, the second at 12:15, and the third at 12:20? Why was one of the driver's talking into a mic?

Just remember that your version of the assassination is accepted by only about 1/4 to 1/3 of the adults in the Western world.

You might pretend to believe that Bowers was either lying or that it is just a whopping, remarkable coincidence that three cars separately cruised around in the parking lot behind the knoll starting just 35 minutes before the shooting, but most people don't see a credible innocent explanation for the cars' actions.

This is exactly what John C's thread (and my contribution) about CT "overthinking" is all about. One witness said he saw three cars. This is the reality, this and nothing more. His observations sound remarkably (suspiciously?) detailed for a railroad tower guy who was "busy" and had no reason to think there was any significance to these vehicles or that anything remarkable was going to happen at 12:30. Was he this observant every morning, every afternoon? No cars were observed between 11 AM and 11:55? None after 12:30? (I also love how, at the WC, he repeatedly referred to the cars as "probing" the area - does that sound like a typical witness' description of cars circling a parking area or someone who is already pretty deep into conspiracy-think?)

In conspiracy world, however, the cars were "clearly" on a JFKA "recon" mission. There can be no other explanation. For these to just be three cars unconnected to the JFKA would be a "whopping, remarkable coincidence." Of course, quite the opposite is true - for conspirators to send three separate cars to "case the joint" from 35 minutes before the JFKA to a mere 5 minutes before the JFKA would be a "whopping, remarkable" bit of Three Stooges lunacy. The conspiratorial plans were so iffy that three cars blatantly "casing the joint" in the last minutes were necessary? What the hell sense does that even make? NONE, other than "it sounds pretty dang conspiratorial, dude."

The second man "appeared to have a mic or telephone in the car." (At the WC, this became "or something that gave the appearance of that at least" and "he was holding something up to his mouth with one hand and he was driving with the other, and gave that appearance.") In conspiracy-think, he by God WAS holding a mic and transmitting up-to-date "recon" to ... well, I don't know who, probably the gunman preparing to assume his position? There can be no other explanation. He couldn't have been a reporter recording his impressions, just a clod eating a Hershey bar, perhaps someone connected with the railroad, or God knows what else. In 1963, both mobile phones and walkie-talkies were not in common use (the railroad being one notable exception) and were very heavy and bulky - but Bowers goes directly to this as his explanation for a guy "holding something up to his mouth" while driving with the other hand?

I would concede that Ball, fortunately for CTers, did a remarkably poor job of examining Bowers and should have grilled him on some of his statements.

FWIW:

In 1963, walkie-talkies were revolutionizing railroad operations by replacing traditional hand signals and lanterns for ground-to-crew coordination. Crews used rugged, vacuum-tube or early solid-state VHF radios (like Motorola's "Handie-Talkie" and the newly introduced HT-200) to safely manage switching in rail yards and communicate along the length of long trains

https://www.rfcafe.com/references/electronics-world/railroad-radio-electronics-world-august-1960.htm

I might add that they were not only in heavy use by train crews but by railroad yard personnel as well.

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    The claim is being made that Bowers was "busy" inside the railroad tower around 12:30 PM.  Bowers noted just the Opposite during his WC Testimony. Due to the soon arriving JFK Motorcade, there were No train cars running and the streets surrounding Dealey Plaza were blocked off. This meant No Cars were traveling down Elm St. This is why the 3 cars cruising around the railroad yard and near his 2 Story Railroad Tower stood out to Bowers.
    Bowers has all 3 cars cruising around the railroad yard between roughly 12:00 and 12:20. The real question here is where did these 3 cars go after they exited the railroad yard? ALL the streets inside Dealey Plaza were blocked for the arrival of JFK Motorcade. Where could those cars possibly go? This question, reported shots from the bushes, the "getaway" car, the 2 Guys walking toward the railroad yard, etc, etc, etc, exemplify why the Elm St Extension remains virgin ground in the Assassination of JFK.