Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[John Corbett]

You must be right because if that was the first shot that JFK is reacting to then JBC would not be reacting to being hit by it as he "clearly" is doing by z228.  If it was the first shot JBC would be reacting to it by turning around to try to see JFK and then shouting "oh, no, no" (as Nellie said he did before the second shot and, as Jackie said, this drew her attention to the Governor). And we can see that there is nothing like that occurring after z226.

Why would any sensible person put any credence in anything Nellie had to say. She was probably the worst witness in Dealey Plaza that day. Almost nothing she said was correct.

[John Corbett]

And then you look at the career of someone like Kuchar or Furyk and say, "How is this possible?"

For a tall guy,, Kuchar has one of the flattest swings on the tour. Furyk is just the opposite with a nearly vertical backswing. The guy I could never understand is Steve Stricker. He has almost no wrist cock but somehow generates enough power to be competitive. He's not one of the longest hitters but he's long enough.

One of my favorite stories is from the early says of the senior tour, when unlikely characters like Walt Zembriski were winning. There was a phenomenon of 50+ year olds who said, "I've played to a 2 handicap for years just hitting balls on Wednesday and playing on Sunday. I'll bet if I worked at it 7 days a week, I could compete out there." So they'd quit their insurance jobs and study, practice and play 7 days a week. At the end of the year, their handicap was now 5.  I'm going to play today at a course where I have shot par 72 once and 73 numerous times. 76 would be my age. I will be happy with 85.

Earlier on, Zembriski qualified for the US Open. He was in the locker room when Tom Weiskopf saw him and thought he was the locker room attendant and handed his shoes to Zembriski to be cleaned. Zembriski told him, "I'm not the locker room attendant. I'm a player and I believe I'm a shot ahead of you."

The guy I remember from the early days of the senior tour was Charlie Owens. I think his left knee was fused so that it couldn't bend and he played cross handed but he won a tournament. He wouldn't have been able to compete if they didn't allow the seniors to ride carts. I think they still can but you don't see many of them doing it any more.

[Andrew Mason]

Why would any sensible person put any credence in anything Nellie had to say. She was probably the worst witness in Dealey Plaza that day. Almost nothing she said was correct.

Let' see:
Her evidence conflicts with the SBT. 

Nellie's evidence doesn't conflict with the 20+ witnesses who said that JFK reacted to the first shot. It doesn't conflict with the motorcade witnesses, photographers and people standing along Elm St. who put the first shot after z186. It doesn't conflict with Gayle Newman who said that JBC was turned sideways when the second shot sounded. It doesn't conflict with the evidence of Greer or Hickey or Altgens.

Conclusion:?... 

[John Corbett]

Let' see:
Her evidence conflicts with the SBT. 

Nellie's evidence doesn't conflict with the 20+ witnesses who said that JFK reacted to the first shot. It doesn't conflict with the motorcade witnesses, photographers and people standing along Elm St. who put the first shot after z186. It doesn't conflict with Gayle Newman who said that JBC was turned sideways when the second shot sounded. It doesn't conflict with the evidence of Greer or Hickey or Altgens.

Conclusion:?...

I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to dissuade you from your foolish theory. Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Nobody is buying it.

[Zeon Mason]

I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to dissuade you from your foolish theory. Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Nobody is buying it.

I’m going to keep an open mind about it until I can prove beyond doubt that it is as ludicrous as it appears to be or until Andrew proves it via
rigorous demonstration that 3/4ths of LNs agree with. 😬

[John Corbett]

I’m going to keep an open mind about it until I can prove beyond doubt that it is as ludicrous as it appears to be

I reached that point a long time ago. Sometime in 2008 when Andrew was trying to peddle his fantasy on John McAdams discussion group. Nobody was buying it back then either. His goofy ideas haven't improved with age.

...or until Andrew proves it via rigorous demonstration that 3/4ths of LNs agree with. 😬

That is not even a remote possibility.

[Andrew Mason]

I’m going to keep an open mind about it until I can prove beyond doubt that it is as ludicrous as it appears to be or until Andrew proves it via
rigorous demonstration that 3/4ths of LNs agree with. 😬

A reasonable unbiased person looking objectively at the evidence realizes that the evidence against Oswald is very strong. It is really overwhelming.  There is also strong evidence that three shots were fired from the SN.  Several witnesses saw the rifle in the SN and three men on the floor below heard the three shots from above them. So it is easy to conclude from the evidence that Oswald was the sole assassin.

The problem is trying to reconcile the Zfilm with three shots from a bolt action rifle. Without the Zfilm there would likely not have been a need to invent the SBT.

LNs have been persuaded that Connally was reacting to being shot in the torso by z230.  I don’t know why that is.

When I first studied the issue I read the evidence of Connally and tried to match his evidence to the zfilm.  I had no difficulty seeing that, according to Connally’s evidence, JBC was reacting to the first shot at z230 by turning around just as he said he did after hearing the shot and realizing that an assassination was unfolding.  Further reading of the evidence of witnesses who described the shot spacing made it abundantly clear that there was only one shot by z230; that the second shot which was closer to z313 than to the first.  Then the zfilm started to make sense.

So after the midpoint between the first and last shots is where the evidence says to look for an indication of the second shot hitting JBC in the torso. The motion of JBC beginning at about z271-272 and immediately falling back as Greer turns around fits the evidence perfectly. The hair on the right side of JFK’s head flying up at z273 fits what George Hickey saw at the time he heard the second shot. There are several other indications all pointing to JBC being hit in those frames.

But it is hard to see if you are not willing to even consider it.