Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?

[Joe Elliott]

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James DiEugenio and Oliver Stone are not "MAGATs" and people like them are legion on the left-ideology side of the JFKA research base, and they excuse Putin everything.

I would not count Oliver Stone as "Left Wing", considering how big a fanboy he is of Putin, rivaling Trump. I am "Left Winger" and I would never consider Oliver Stone as a fellow "Left Winger" like I would AOC or Talarico.

He has been consistently against liberal Democracy, pushing the narrative that Liberal Democracy is a myth, that the people do not really control elections and governments, a view that Trump has a lot of agreement with. I believe this was his chief motive for making the movie 'JFK'.

Calling Oliver Stone "Anti Democracy" is a more accurate label than "Left Wing". Calling Stone "Left Wing" is like calling Hitler "Left Wing" because, he was, the head of the "National SOCIALISTS". The labels people give themselves can be misleading.

I do not understand the MAGA supporters, or Biden supporters, who tolerate 1 million dead in Ukraine as a passing thought.

Biden was overly slow and cautious in supporting Ukraine, but he did support Ukraine and his support was building over time, but Trump got Congress to interfere with this a lot in 2023 and since then.



I don't think it is one million Ukrainian dead. Most of the dead are Russians and the total dead could be one million. I think the way you phrase it is misleading.

I don't feel bad about Russian army dead any more than I feel bad about German army dead during World War II.

The U. N. estimates that around 15,000 Ukrainian civilians have been killed since February 2022. About a third of them in the first month, mostly from face to face encounters with the Russian army. A sign that if an unfavorable "Peace" is achieved in Ukraine, Ukrainian civilian casualties will spike a lot, as to be decided in Moscow.

[Lance Payette]

Still derailing the thread - and proud of it! - but I omitted from my list of Oswald puzzlements taxi driver Whaley's WC testimony that after Oswald was already seated in the cab an older woman approached and asked if she could have it, whereupon Oswald cracked open the door as if to exit and (Whaley vaguely recalled) offered the cab to the woman.

An escaping Presidential assassin politely offers his escape cab to a stranger? Well, he may have done so - but it's certainly curious.

Which reminds me: This is Whaley's actual cab. Such a cab is my candidate for the "police car" that pulled up in front of Beckley and toot-tooted, as described by Earlene Roberts. The Beckley property had 22 bedrooms, with 18 rentable rooms, and most of the rentable rooms were behind the main house. Pulling up to the curb and toot-tooting is common taxi behavior. Case closed, you're welcome.

[Lance Payette]

By popular demand, I am reluctantly compelled to offer the observation that my wife, who is a native Belarusian, was at the very outset (i.e., 2016) an enthusiastic Trump supporter. She regards Putin as the devil incarnate. We both now regard Biden, for whatever his other failings may have been, as a hero insofar as his support for Ukraine is concerned. Trump, for whatever his other virtues may be, has made a complete counterproductive fool of himself insofar as Ukraine and Putin are concerned. I am almost forced to conclude, unlikely as it may seem, that Putin actually does have photos of The Donald doing unspeakable things with little Russian boys. Something about the Trump-Putin relationship just makes no sense unless one thinks w-a-y outside the box. Egomaniacal Trump allowing someone as universally despised as Putin to play him like a cheap violin is impossible for me to explain in mundane terms.