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Online John Corbett

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2026, 01:03:52 AM »
What we're seeing today is proof that the GOP has had a fascistic element since at least the Nixon Administration.

"Former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin, with help from The Traitorous Orange Turd, has simply put that element in control.

You wouldn't know a fascist if he pissed in your ear.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2026, 01:24:55 AM »
You wouldn't know a fascist if he pissed in your ear.

At 6' 3" (and 235 lbs), I'm too tall for someone like you to piss in my ear.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2026, 05:39:04 PM »
ME: What percentage of the people who voted for Trump in 2024 now disapprove of his job performance?

GROK: Approximately 20-25% of people who voted for Trump in 2024 now give him a negative (disapprove) job approval rating.

pewresearch.org

A Trump hating poll.  Remember the pollsters that suggested Hillary would win in 2016 or the 2024 poll indicating that Trump was down double digits in Iowa?  Who cares? If his approval rating drops to zero, he is still the president and Kamala is not - and never will be.  That's what matters.  Cite all the polls that you want.  Trump will go down in history as a two-term president.   A transformational figure.

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2026, 05:45:16 PM »
The real danger is if the Democrats ever gain control of the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives which they probably will. When that happens, they will end the filibuster, pack the Supreme Court, and grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, making it very difficult for the GOP to take back the Senate. They will then be able to ram through their radical agenda. It almost happened in 2020 but we were lucky to have a couple sane Democrats in Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema to prevent that from happening. The only one we have now is John Fetterman and I don't think he will be enough to stop all this if the Democrats get 51 senators.

I agree 100% but all Trump can do is continue to exercise good policy judgements and hope there are still enough sane people that haven't been brainwashed by media propaganda to avoid that result.  I have no doubt whatsoever that TDS is a real condition that has resulted from either an intentional or unintentional PSYOP type effort.   The decade long obsession with Trump bashing in the media, with social media algorithms, and in Hollywood culture has impacted the minds of such people.  They are not only entirely obsessed with Trump but have a deep and very personal hatred toward him.  I didn't agree with Biden or Obama but never felt that kind of rage over politics.  It is frightening. 

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2026, 07:09:26 PM »
A Trump hating poll.  Remember the pollsters that suggested Hillary would win in 2016 or the 2024 poll indicating that Trump was down double digits in Iowa?  Who cares? If his approval rating drops to zero, he is still the president and Kamala is not - and never will be.  That's what matters.  Cite all the polls that you want.  Trump will go down in history as a two-term president.   A transformational figure.

I think Kamala should have run for governor of California. That way she could have followed Richard Nixon's path to the White House.

Sitting Vice-President
Lose the presidential election
Two years later lose the governor's race in California ("You won't have Kamala to kick around anymore" speech would be optional)
Go into private practice (OK that's a tough one. What prestigious law firm would hire her?}
In 2030 midterms campaign for congressional candidates around the country, earning favors in return
In 2032 call in those favors and cruise to the nomination.
Win the 2032 general election.

There's one big problem with that scenario. In 1968, the majority of convention delegates were still chosen at state party conventions where Nixon used the creds he banked in 1966. He did well in the primaries but it was the unelected delegates that put him over the top. The decisive move was offering Spiro Agnew the Veep spot in exchange for Agnew delivering the Maryland delegation.

Now, most of the delegates are selected in primaries and caucuses. Kamala is such a bad candidate, there's almost no way she could win a majority through the primaries. I doubt she would still be viable after losing big in Iowa and New Hampshire.

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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2026, 11:34:05 PM »
I think Kamala should have run for governor of California. That way she could have followed Richard Nixon's path to the White House.

Sitting Vice-President
Lose the presidential election
Two years later lose the governor's race in California ("You won't have Kamala to kick around anymore" speech would be optional)
Go into private practice (OK that's a tough one. What prestigious law firm would hire her?}
In 2030 midterms campaign for congressional candidates around the country, earning favors in return
In 2032 call in those favors and cruise to the nomination.
Win the 2032 general election.

There's one big problem with that scenario. In 1968, the majority of convention delegates were still chosen at state party conventions where Nixon used the creds he banked in 1966. He did well in the primaries but it was the unelected delegates that put him over the top. The decisive move was offering Spiro Agnew the Veep spot in exchange for Agnew delivering the Maryland delegation.

Now, most of the delegates are selected in primaries and caucuses. Kamala is such a bad candidate, there's almost no way she could win a majority through the primaries. I doubt she would still be viable after losing big in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Imagine the state of this country if she had become president having never won a single primary?  That would have been the final straw.  Even the most deranged TDS sufferer must know that she was unqualified to manage a 7-11 much less be president.  Trump spared us that nightmare.  My beef with Trump is that while his policy decisions are sound, he often can't implement them.  And he is often his own worst enemy.  That's Trump, though.  A flawed person.  I'll take him over any these corrupt, incompetent establishment politicians any day of the week. 
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Re: Why are so many Trump supporters attracted to the JFKA?
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2026, 12:49:02 AM »
Imagine the state of this country if she had become president having never won a single primary?  That would have been the final straw.  Even the most deranged TDS sufferer must know that she was unqualified to manage a 7-11 much less be president.  Trump spared us that nightmare.  My beef with Trump is that while his policy decisions are sound, he often can't implement them.  And he is often his own worst enemy.  That's Trump, though.  A flawed person.  I'll take him over any these corrupt, incompetent establishment politicians any day of the week.

Do you think if Trump had been a typical play it safe politician, he ever could have defied the odds and become President in the first place. The reason so many people hate him is the same reason so many people love him. He says what's on his mind and he doesn't sugarcoat it. Trump took over the GOP because the establishment Republicans would talk a good game but would never stand up to the Democrats. As soon as the Democrats would start to call them racists or Nazis, they would wet the pants and fold their cards, even when they had a winning hand. I got fed up with them in the 1990s when they finally got control of both houses of Congress but let Bill Clinton play them like a fiddle. They did accomplish some things but there was so much more they could have done. Even when Bush 43 got elected, they still wouldn't press their advantage. I refused to vote for McCain and I had to hold my nose when I voted for Romney. Now I wish I hadn't. Ryan and Boehner were ineffective as Speakers. The continued the tradition of rolling over whenever the Democrats started talking mean to them.

When Trump entered the race in 2015, I had reservations. I didn't know what to expect from him. I voted Libertarian in 2016. But then I saw how he governed and realized the GOP had finally found a fighter. The rank and filed of the GOP figured that out too most of them even before I did. I enthusiastically voted for Trump in both 2020 and 2024. I would do so again in 2028 if he was allowed to run. He has shown the rest of the GOP how to fight the Dems. I want to see which of the expected candidates in 2028 shows he (or she) will do the same.