Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver

[Steve M. Galbraith]

I didn't avoid the image evidence. I told you that I could see the pareidolic "face" at 29:30. Alas for you, neither I nor pretty much anyone else who has looked at this pareidolic face thinks it looks like our beloved Lamb Chop. Actually, at first blush I thought the image posted by Jack White looked more like Lamb Chop than your pareidolic flower face, It took me about 30 seconds to realize "Wait a minute, that's the purse of a woman on the sidewalk."

Bugiloisi (BOO! HISS!) says the following in his endnotes in Reclaiming History (BOO! HISS!):

Jean Hill took a lot of ribbing for telling reporters in a national TV interview shortly after the shooting that President and Mrs. Kennedy were looking at a little white dog on the seat between them as the car came abreast of Hill’s position. In later years, conspiracy theorists tried to restore her credibility by claiming that photographs taken at Love Field show that Mrs. Kennedy had been given a white, stuffed-toy version of the famous Sheri Lewis TV puppet, Lamb Chop. The claim, however, was based on poor-quality images posted on the Internet. High-quality images show that what critics thought was a Lamb Chop toy was, in fact, a bouquet of white asters. (Trask, That Day in Dallas , p.29).

I don't have the Trask book, but if you can find it take a look at page 29 and see if it clears up this non-mystery for you.

The Trask book can be viewed online here (you'll need a free account to fully access it): https://archive.org/details/thatdayindallast0000tras_k3b5/page/28/mode/2up

Here's the photo from page 29. It's white flowers.



And zoomed x 300:

[John Mytton]

The Trask book can be viewed online here (you'll need a free account to fully access it): https://archive.org/details/thatdayindallast0000tras_k3b5/page/28/mode/2up

Here's the photo from page 29. It's white flowers.



And zoomed x 300:

Thanks Steve.





JohnM

[Royell Storing]

I didn't avoid the image evidence. I told you that I could see the pareidolic "face" at 29:30. Alas for you, neither I nor pretty much anyone else who has looked at this pareidolic face thinks it looks like our beloved Lamb Chop. Actually, at first blush I thought the image posted by Jack White looked more like Lamb Chop than your pareidolic flower face, It took me about 30 seconds to realize "Wait a minute, that's the purse of a woman on the sidewalk."

Bugiloisi (BOO! HISS!) says the following in his endnotes in Reclaiming History (BOO! HISS!):

Jean Hill took a lot of ribbing for telling reporters in a national TV interview shortly after the shooting that President and Mrs. Kennedy were looking at a little white dog on the seat between them as the car came abreast of Hill’s position. In later years, conspiracy theorists tried to restore her credibility by claiming that photographs taken at Love Field show that Mrs. Kennedy had been given a white, stuffed-toy version of the famous Sheri Lewis TV puppet, Lamb Chop. The claim, however, was based on poor-quality images posted on the Internet. High-quality images show that what critics thought was a Lamb Chop toy was, in fact, a bouquet of white asters. (Trask, That Day in Dallas , p.29).

I don't have the Trask book, but if you can find it take a look at page 29 and see if it clears up this non-mystery for you.

  Thanks for posting that page 29 photo.  I think that SA Greer carried a gun. I can Not see SA Greer's gun on your page 29 photo. Do you think that SA Greer had his gun on him? The page 29 photo has nothing to do with the 29:30 Lamb Chop Image.
  You guys continue wanting to direct this discussion toward anything but the actual 29:30 Lamb Chop Image. All I continually get is: (1) Where did this Lamb Chop come from?, (2) How did this Lamb Chop get inside the JFK Limo? and, (3) "run out the clock" endless Dodging. Just tell this Forum what YOU SEE at 29:30.  Or, if you believe this 29:30 Lamb Chop Image is a "planted/altered image", just put on your Big Boy Pants and say so. I do Not see the Lamb Chop Image as being "PAREIDOLIA". I do believe that legitimately can be argued with respect to "Badge Man". That I know of, this Lamb Chop Image has not been played with. The Badge Man Image required Hokey Pokey to produce that image. That is not necessary to see the 29:30 Lamb Chop Image.

[Royell Storing]

  My fault. SA Hill.

[John Mytton]

The Trask image shows Jackie was holding white flowers.



These video frames confirms Jackie holding the white flowers as she and John are welcomed into the Limo.




Here's John and Jackie entering the Limo through John's side and we can see no one on the other side with a departing gift of a horrifying disembodied Lamb Chop puppets head. BTW why would anyone give the First Lady a cheap knockoff Lamb Chop head which doesn't even include the arms or legs or even a torso?
We also can see Jackie's right hand isn't holding anything and her left arm is cradling two bunches of flowers, so where was she hiding Lamb Chop, stuffed in her jacket?
Then after Jackie sits down she looks down to where we just saw where the white flowers would be, and "gee willikers" she is then seen holding the white flowers with her right hand which effectively rules out a Lamb Chop Groupie running up and placing the gruesome Puppet head into Jackie's accessible left hand.
All events from multiple camera angles follow a logical narrative and there is no need for a Houdini like "watch me pull a rabbit Lamb Chop out of my hat"



And finally here's the frame where there is apparently Lamb Chop's face and we can see within the red box the two flowers highlighted above from when Jackie is entering the Limo, and the left "eyebrow" in the yellow box is simply the space between two flowers.





JohnM

[Lance Payette]

One of the hallmarks of a true CT Crank is the inability EVER to simply say "Oops, my bad. I was wrong. Let's move on."

One of my fans - perhaps the only one! - at the Ed Forum thanked me for having the ability to occasionally say exactly that and not keep digging in my heels until I had made a fool of myself and lost all credibility.

What vast difference is there between Jean Hill actually seeing Lamb Chop and Jean Hill seeing a bouquet of white flowers that she mistook for a little dog???

[Royell Storing]

The Trask image shows Jackie was holding white flowers.



These video frames confirms Jackie holding the white flowers as she and John are welcomed into the Limo.




Here's John and Jackie entering the Limo through John's side and we can see no one on the other side with a departing gift of a horrifying disembodied Lamb Chop puppets head. BTW why would anyone give the First Lady a cheap knockoff Lamb Chop head which doesn't even include the arms or legs or even a torso?
We also can see Jackie's right hand isn't holding anything and her left arm is cradling two bunches of flowers, so where was she hiding Lamb Chop, stuffed in her jacket?
Then after Jackie sits down she looks down to where we just saw where the white flowers would be, and "gee willikers" she is then seen holding the white flowers with her right hand which effectively rules out a Lamb Chop Groupie running up and placing the gruesome Puppet head into Jackie's accessible left hand.
All events from multiple camera angles follow a logical narrative and there is no need for a Houdini like "watch me pull a rabbit Lamb Chop out of my hat"



And finally here's the frame where there is apparently Lamb Chop's face and we can see within the red box the two flowers highlighted above from when Jackie is entering the Limo, and the left "eyebrow" in the yellow box is simply the space between two flowers.





JohnM

  Hey John - How are you doing?   

                  "...horrifying, disembodied Lamb Chop puppets head"?  It's a Lamb Chop SOCK PUPPET. A Sock Puppet does Not have a body.

                  So, we have "White" flowers and Black flowers on a B/W Film? What other COLORS would you expect to see? And if you look closely at these White Flowers, their color is not much different than Jackie's BRIGHT PINK outfit. Cornerstoning  your argument on "COLOR", when your posted images/still frames were filmed in B/W, is self defeating. What you are attempting to do is akin to describing the color of the "Cactus Rose" on the "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" (1962).