Video: Johnson Did Not Rule Out A Conspiracy

[John Corbett]

TC-

There is literature available online now, that was not available in 1963-4. Information not available to the WC, or anyone, probably.

Oh. It's on the internet. Everybody knows you can't put things on the internet that aren't true.

You can read James Woolsey's book, Operation Dragon: Inside the Kremlin's Secret War on America. I do not think the book is compelling, but it does raise issues. Woolsey is a former CIA director, so he has some street cred.

A conspiracy book. Another unimpeachable source.

You are smart guy, so do a lot on online searches for the US Ambassador to Mexico, Thomas Mann, and the State Department staffer in Mexico Charles Thomas, and what happened to them re the JFKA. Basically, they both lost their careers for merely wanting to follow leads into Cuba. Not comforting.

I will never understand why anyone would think Oswald's Mexico City trip had any connection to the assassination. NOBODY could have known at that time that fate was going to deal Oswald a chance to assassinate JFK.

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Gus Russo is a prominent investigative journalist and author who has specialized in the JFK assassination, specifically advocating for a theory involving Cuban intelligence (G2) and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Jack Anderson was "a prominent investigative journalist" who steered me wrong back in the 1980s. Why should I trust journalists now?

His research in this area was featured in a 2006 German documentary and his later books.

Are you trying to make your sources sound credible. It's not working.

Key Documentary: Rendezvous with Death: JFK & the Cuban Connection

Release/Background: This German documentary, released in 2006 (German title: Rendezvous mit dem Tod: Warum John F. Kennedy sterben musste), was written by Gus Russo and directed by filmmaker Wilfried Huismann.The G2 Theory: The film claims that the Cuban secret service (G2) organized the assassination of President Kennedy as retaliation for the Kennedy brothers' attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro (Operation Mongoose).

The G2 Theory: The film claims that the Cuban secret service (G2) organized the assassination of President Kennedy as retaliation for the Kennedy brothers' attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro (Operation Mongoose).

Oswald's Role: According to the documentary, Lee Harvey Oswald was an unstable, self-styled pro-Castro marxist who was "contracted" or encouraged to kill JFK by Cuban agents after he made contact with them in Mexico City.

How did those agents know Oswald was going to be handed the opportunity to kill JFK?

Evidence Cited: The film features interviews with former Cuban G2 spies, KGB files, and archival research from Mexico. A key source was former Cuban G2 official Oscar Marino, who claimed Castro "got Kennedy before Kennedy could assassinate the Cuban leader".

How did Castro know Oswald was going to be handed the opportunity to kill JFK?

Key Finding: Russo argues in the film that Oswald, while acting as the lone gunman, was encouraged by Cuban Intelligence, who viewed him as a "disposable" asset to protect Cuba.

Same question as above?

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You can find the above film on Youtube. It is a fun film to watch anyway.

I'll pass.

Re the Katzenbach memo?

I would find more comfort if the Katzenbach memo said something to the effect: "No matter where the chips fall, the most important client is Truth, and finding out, and then disclosing, everything about the JFKA."

Maybe he should have written something like:
"It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy’s Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now."

Oh, wait. He did.

Also, the memo was not made to the WC. It was sent to Bill Moyers. The memo was not the WC's marching orders as many CTs would have us believe.

Instead, on Nov. 25 1963 Katzenbach was concerned about how to sell the LN theory to the public.

I have reservations about the LN JFKA theory.

Your reservations are not a litmus test for the credibility of the WC's findings.

[Michael Capasse]

He was getting most of his information directly from Hoover and it is clear from their recorded conversations that Hoover was completely clueless about the details of the assassination.

First you claim Hoover was clueless about the details of the assassination.

The Katzenbach memo is usually quoted out of context. If one reads the entire memo, he is not asking the WC to engage in a cover up. By the time he wrote that, there was already enough evidence gathered that there was no doubt Oswald was the assassin and the WC would come to that conclusion.

Then came the excuse "they" had enough evidence gathered by 11/25.

Maybe he should have written something like:
"It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy’s Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now."

Oh, wait. He did.

Also, the memo was not made to the WC. It was sent to Bill Moyers. The memo was not the WC's marching orders as many CTs would have us believe.Your reservations are not a litmus test for the credibility of the WC's findings.

You went on to claim the memo is often quoted out of context by CTs (whatever that means) - then YOU quote the memo out of context.  It is Hoover to Johnson, if you can't realize that, you're either naive or simply choose to be ignorant. You're a smart guy, so I would suggest the latter.  Nobody said anything about marching orders to a WC that doesn't exist yet.

  ...omt, statements off the top of your head, followed up with such lame excuses to cover, are not a good litmus test for your credibility.

[John Corbett]

First you claim Hoover was clueless about the details of the assassination.

Have you listened to his taped conversations with LBJ? Hoover was clueless.

Then came the excuse "they" had enough evidence gathered by 11/25.

"They" were the DPD. They did turn over the investigation to the FBI but that doesn't mean it made it up the ladder to Hoover. His conversations with LBJ indicated he didn't have a grasp of some of the most basic facts.

You went on to claim the memo is often quoted out of context by CTs (whatever that means) - then YOU quote the memo out of context.  It is Hoover to Johnson, if you can't realize that, you're either naive or simply choose to be ignorant. You're a smart guy, so I would suggest the latter.  Nobody said anything about marching orders to a WC that doesn't exist yet.

The memo was from Katzenbach to Moyers. What the hell does that have to do with the conversations between Hoover and LBJ?

  ...omt, statements off the top of your head, followed up with such lame excuses to cover, are not a good litmus test for your credibility.

Neither are your opinions.

[Michael Capasse]

Have you listened to his taped conversations with LBJ? Hoover was clueless."They" were the DPD. They did turn over the investigation to the FBI but that doesn't mean it made it up the ladder to Hoover. His conversations with LBJ indicated he didn't have a grasp of some of the most basic facts.The memo was from Katzenbach to Moyers. What the hell does that have to do with the conversations between Hoover and LBJ?Neither are your opinions.

How do you go from this  .... 

"By the time he wrote that, there was already enough evidence gathered that there was no doubt Oswald was the assassin and the WC would come to that conclusion."

..to some phone conversation with Hoover?

[Benjamin Cole]

MC-

I concur with you---there was no way anyone could know on 11.25 if the suddenly assassinated LHO had any fellow conspirators, or others who manipulated or induced LHO.

LHO's assassination was sure suspicious, and Jack Ruby had connections to the Cuba scene.

In fact, LBJ stunted any investigation into LHO ties to G2'ers or KGB.

The LN CT was a necessity in 1963-4 Washington.

Who wanted a nuke war with Russia?