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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #42 on: Today at 08:38:10 PM »
The simple fact is that a bullet fired from the sniper's nest through JFK's upper torso and exiting from his throat could not have missed JBC. He was directly in the line of fire. Had he not been turned slightly to his right when the bullet struck, it's likely he would have been hit more toward the center of his back, probably just right of his spine. The single bullet was inevitable given where the bullet entered and exited from JFK.

As I understand  it , Andrew’s Z190 shot hitting JC in his left thigh without going thru his torso is because the angle of the limo (and hence JFKs back)  on the road at Z190 is more to the left of the TSBD shooter than at Z224.

But even with that, JC has to have his left leg turned to his left while he keeps his upper body and shoulders turned at least 45 rightward such that the bullet goes past his left shoulder.

Theoretically , maybe this is possible , however until some serious 3D computer modeling is done like Myers did, it remains doubtful. 

My major question about a Z190 shot hitting JC in left inner thigh is if the bullet buried deeply into his thigh or not?

If it did then any flakes of metal removed from JCs thigh must be CE 399 because supposedly that bullet hit JC in the wrist and the metal flakes left in his wrist were from CE 399.

Thus Z190 cannot be CE 399 since Z190 does not hit JCs right hand.

If the Z190 bullet does not remain in JCs thigh, then how much was it slowed down from tangentially grazing it? It’s hitting at 1500 ft/sec after being slowed by JFK, so depending how much thigh muscle slows it down, it’s still probably traveling at least 900 ft/ sec after that.

And that Z190 bullet coming in at that downward angle it’s got no place to go after striking JCs inner thigh except THRU the front seat probably on the middle of the seat. This might be theoretically possible but there does not appear to be (in the limo photos)  a hole in the seat.

It’s too bad they did not preserve the limo for future analysis.

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Online John Corbett

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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #43 on: Today at 09:45:54 PM »
As I understand  it , Andrew’s Z190 shot hitting JC in his left thigh without going thru his torso is because the angle of the limo (and hence JFKs back)  on the road at Z190 is more to the left of the TSBD shooter than at Z224.

But even with that, JC has to have his left leg turned to his left while he keeps his upper body and shoulders turned at least 45 rightward such that the bullet goes past his left shoulder.

Theoretically , maybe this is possible , however until some serious 3D computer modeling is done like Myers did, it remains doubtful. 

My major question about a Z190 shot hitting JC in left inner thigh is if the bullet buried deeply into his thigh or not?

If it did then any flakes of metal removed from JCs thigh must be CE 399 because supposedly that bullet hit JC in the wrist and the metal flakes left in his wrist were from CE 399.

Thus Z190 cannot be CE 399 since Z190 does not hit JCs right hand.

If the Z190 bullet does not remain in JCs thigh, then how much was it slowed down from tangentially grazing it? It’s hitting at 1500 ft/sec after being slowed by JFK, so depending how much thigh muscle slows it down, it’s still probably traveling at least 900 ft/ sec after that.

And that Z190 bullet coming in at that downward angle it’s got no place to go after striking JCs inner thigh except THRU the front seat probably on the middle of the seat. This might be theoretically possible but there does not appear to be (in the limo photos)  a hole in the seat.

It’s too bad they did not preserve the limo for future analysis.

The angle of the limo didn't change that much from Z190 to Z220. That's less than 2 seconds and the car had just come out of a very sharp turn that would have forced it to slow down. While the change in angle would have turned JBC's thigh farther left in relation to JFK, it also would have moved his torso farther left making it even less likely the bullet exiting JFK's throat would have gone to the left of JBC's torso. 

Another problem with a Z190 shot is Oswald would have had to fire through the tree. Why would he do that when waiting just over one second would give him a clear shot. Now only would his view of his target have been obscured, firing through the trees raised the possibility of the shot being deflected by a branch. Even a minor deflection could cause a miss.

In short, there isn't much about Andrew's theory that makes much sense to anyone but Andrew.