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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 05:52:44 PM »
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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 07:12:53 PM »
Here is where common sense has to enter the picture. The FBI doesn't speculate on probabilities when forensic evidence is not 100% conclusive. That doesn't stop reasonable people from making such judgements. Do you really think the two large pieces found by the SS in the limo came from anything except the headshot. What else could have caused a full metal jacket bullet to break apart like that?
Maybe the shot that hit JBC in the back and wrist, which was the second shot.   According to the evidence, Tague was struck by a fragment on the second shot and Greer sensed an impact in the car on the second shot.  So, according to that evidence, the second shot fragmented. How a bullet that impacted forcefully as JBC described, impacted butt-first and destroyed 10 cm  of rib and caused a comminuted fracture of the radius 2 inches above the wrist joint and came out looking like CE399 is not easy to understand.  It is especially difficult to understand not only how it could do that damage but how it could:
1. fool Agent Hickey into thinking that the second shot occurred at the same time that he was turned forward watching JFK, which we know must have been some time after we see him facing rearward in Altgens 6;
2. fool 75% of the witnesses who recalled a shot pattern into recalling that the last two shots were closer together (which would support the second shot after z255 (Altgens 6))

Online John Corbett

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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 08:12:04 PM »
Maybe the shot that hit JBC in the back and wrist, which was the second shot.   According to the evidence, Tague was struck by a fragment on the second shot and Greer sensed an impact in the car on the second shot.
It has never been established which shot caused the injury to Tague.
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So, according to that evidence,
What you really mean is your interpretation of that evidence.
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the second shot fragmented.
CE399 did not fragment
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How a bullet that impacted forcefully as JBC described, impacted butt-first and destroyed 10 cm  of rib and caused a comminuted fracture of the radius 2 inches above the wrist joint and came out looking like CE399 is not easy to understand.
It is very easy to understand if you are willing to listen to people who know what they are talking about. The recently post Nova program covered every one of these points as presented by Luke and Michael Haag. 
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It is especially difficult to understand not only how it could do that damage but how it could:
1. fool Agent Hickey into thinking that the second shot occurred at the same time that he was turned forward watching JFK, which we know must have been some time after we see him facing rearward in Altgens 6;
Hickey was out of the frame when the second shot struck about Z222 so we don't know for sure which way he was facing. The last time we can see him prior to that shot was Z207 and he is clearly facing forward.
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2. fool 75% of the witnesses who recalled a shot pattern into recalling that the last two shots were closer together (which would support the second shot after z255 (Altgens 6))
Oh, goody. Here we go with your infatuation with witnesses again. No wonder you can't figure this thing out.
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Re: Hypothetical question
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 08:21:40 PM »
From the Shenon book on the Zapruder film and the SBT (the frame that Humes saw was CE 398 and ~Z-227 or 228).