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What was that? Gunfire?

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Jake Maxwell:


I'm not sure how this corresponds to the Z frames... but Jackie and John seem to have heard something that got their attention...

Jake Maxwell:

--- Quote from: Jake Maxwell on April 27, 2026, 11:29:19 PM ---
I'm not sure how this corresponds to the Z frames... but Jackie and John seem to have heard something that got their attention...



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How does this photo correspond the numbered Z frames?

John Corbett:

--- Quote from: Jake Maxwell on April 27, 2026, 11:29:19 PM ---
I'm not sure how this corresponds to the Z frames... but Jackie and John seem to have heard something that got their attention...



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At Z133, Phil Willis had already stepped out into Elm St. and that might be what caught the attention of Jackie. He was just stepping back onto the grass when the limo passed him and he dropped out of her vision. She then turned her attention elsewhere. No one in that limo looks to me to be the least bit startled. None of the spectators seem to have reacted to a gunshot either.

I find it a bit eerie to know that we are looking at a man whose conscious life is going to end in less than 10 seconds.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Jake Maxwell on April 28, 2026, 12:24:21 AM ---In the Croft photo (which was taken at Z-161), Jackie and John Connally seem to have heard something that got their attention.

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Correct. They heard Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot 2.02 seconds earlier at "Z-124."

Note how Secret Service Agent Kellerman is also consciously reacting to the sounds of that shot.

Factoid: By this point, Connally had already consciously turned his head quickly to his right.

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