Where did the head shot come from?

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Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 04:03:01 PM »
Sherri Fiester, Certified Senior Crime Scene Investigator and law enforcement instructor on beveling:

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Beveling

Bullets traveling through bone create marginal conical shaped fractures adjacent to the entry or exit site. The conical beveling characteristically appears as a symmetrical chipping out of bone forming an indentation surrounding the entry or exit point on the opposite side of impact. The small end of the cone touches the interior or exterior bone table from which the bullet entered. Tangential gunshot wounds to the head create elliptically shaped defects containing both internal and external beveling (Levy, 2012).

Some wounds present both internal and external beveling. Researchers attribute this pseudo-beveling in high velocity distance shots to the transference of kinetic energy to the skull as dislodged chips flaking off entry wound edges, producing the effect of beveling. Without careful examination, misinterpretation of an entrance wound as an exit wound is possible in all types of entries (Quatrehomme, 1998, Coe, 1981; Prahlow, 2010; Adams, 2010).

Based upon current forensic research, it appears beveling cannot provide conclusive evidence of projectile direction. Incorrect assessment of direction can occur with tangential entries or exits, mistaken orientation, insufficient beveling, or the failure to recognize external beveling on entry wounds.
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I will believe the autopsy report and the doctors that performed it. I did not ask the question John. Jack did. Why don't you answer it.

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 04:06:47 PM »
The question here is not what I posted Gary it is "where did the head shot come from" I don't think it came from the front. I think it came from the back.

"where did the head shot come from"

should be "where did the head shots come from?"



Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 04:11:28 PM »
"where did the head shot come from"

should be "where did the head shots come from?"

should be "where did the head shots come from?"


So, do you have any opinions on that?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2018, 04:13:12 PM »
I will believe the autopsy report and the doctors that performed it.

Of course you will.  You will "stand by" whoever gives you the answer you've already assumed is the right one.

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I did not ask the question John. Jack did. Why don't you answer it.

Where did the head shot come from?  No freakin' idea.  Insufficient evidence.


Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 04:22:00 PM »
should be "where did the head shots come from?"


So, do you have any opinions on that?

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Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2018, 04:35:33 PM »
Of course you will.  You will "stand by" whoever gives you the answer you've already assumed is the right one.

Where did the head shot come from?  No freakin' idea.  Insufficient evidence.

No freakin' idea.

First honest thing I've seen you post.  ;D
Now that wasn't so hard, was it John.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Where did the head shot come from?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2018, 04:47:33 PM »
A few problems with that. On the triple underpass were two Dallas police officers. Officers J. W. Foster and J. C. White, along with 8 or 9 workers, including Skinny Holland. None of them reported a gunman being there or hearing any shots from there. When you look at the medical evidence it does not support a shot from there. The entrance wound on the back of the president's head showed beveling on the inside surface of the skull indicating the direction of the bullet. A portion of the right temporal region of the skull showed beveling on the outside surface indicating direction of the bullet. Before a bunch of the CTers get on here and say, "all of the doctors claimed a big hole in the back of the president's head" that is just not true. All of them did not claim that. That all started with Groden and Livingstone. A good example is Dr. Marion "Pepper" Jenkins who was the anestheiologist and was the closest doctor to the president's head. Jenkins never claimed a hole in the back of the president's head. Dr. Kemp Clark examined the head wound and never said it.

Jenkins to the ARRB

"He saw a head wound in the ?..middle temporal region back to the occipital?


Dr Kemp to the W.C.

"Dr. CLARK - The President was lying on his back on the emergency cart. Dr. Perry was performing a tracheotomy. There were chest tubes being inserted. Dr. Jenkins was assisting the President's respirations through a tube in his trachea. Dr. Jones and Dr. Carrico were administering fluids and blood intravenously. The President was making a few spasmodic respiratory efforts. I assisted. in withdrawing the endotracheal tube from the throat as Dr. Perry was then ready to insert the tracheotomy tube . I then examined the President briefly.
My findings showed his pupils were widely dilated, did not react to light, and his eyes were deviated outward with a slight skew deviation.
I then examined the wound in the back of the President's head. This was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed. There was considerable blood loss evident on the carriage, the floor, and the clothing of some of the people present. I would estimate 1,500 cc. of blood being present.
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