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Interview With JFK Assassination Witness Mary Lea Williams In Dealey Plaza
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Robin Unger on April 24, 2026, 06:59:14 PM ---Eyewitness "Patricia Ann Donaldson" said that the Limo was in this position when she heard the first shot.
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She's not far off. If she was correct, that means the first shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming, which some have argued but I don't buy.
At frame Z133, the frame Zapruder resumed filming at, the limo was slightly farther down Elm St. than Donaldson thought it was when the first shot was fired.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg
I believe the shot was actually fired about one second later than Donahue recalled at frame Z148.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z148.jpg
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Robin Unger on April 24, 2026, 07:13:00 PM ---Hughes Film showing the limo turning on to Elm.
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It appears to me Hughes quit filming just before the first shot was fired. I don't see any evidence of startled reactions by the spectators at the end of that clip.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on April 24, 2026, 10:18:05 AM ---This is such a silly argument and I don't know why it needs explaining.
Zapruder had about two minutes of film to play with and obviously the main event that he wanted to capture was JFK's Limo driving past him because at the time who knows what he may have filmed, the Limo may have stopped and JFK could have shaken hands with the crowd who knows? So when Zapruder saw the motorbikes turning into Elm he started filming but when there was no Limo, he instinctively stopped filming to conserve the limited precious film, then when he was certain that the Limo was in sight, Zapruder started filming again. The critics must think that Zapruder had unlimited film but the reality is that Zapruder was well aware of his limited resources and wanted every frame to count!!
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1cqseFaM6s
JohnM
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JOHN- You mention there being some sort of Zapruder "sight" issue. From that elevated Perch, Zapruder and Sitzman could see the JFK Motorcade turning onto Houston, traveling down Houston St, and then turning onto Elm St. So, an alleged Zapruder "sight" issue did not exist. Dan Rather told the World that the Zapruder Film he viewed the weekend of the assassination showed the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. And Rather reported this several times. That makes Rather's reporting Not a simple slip-of-the-tongue. Rather reported what he viewed on that Z Film and he did so several times.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 24, 2026, 07:26:42 PM --- JOHN- You mention there being some sort of Zapruder "sight" issue. From that elevated Perch, Zapruder and Sitzman could see the JFK Motorcade turning onto Houston, traveling down Houston St, and then turning onto Elm St. So, an alleged Zapruder "sight" issue did not exist. Dan Rather told the World that the Zapruder Film he viewed the weekend of the assassination showed the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. And Rather reported this several times. That makes Rather's reporting Not a simple slip-of-the-tongue. Rather reported what he viewed on that Z Film and he did so several times.
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I wouldn't believe Rather if he told me water was wet. Even back then, Rather was a creative reporter. He was the one that reported at one school the kids cheered when they heard JFK had been shot. Well sort of. The kids were told they were being sent home early without being told why. What class of kids wouldn't cheer upon hearing that, especially on such a beautiful day weather wise that 11/22/1963 had turned out to be weatherwise.
Robin Unger:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 24, 2026, 07:19:55 PM ---She's not far off. If she was correct, that means the first shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming, which some have argued but I don't buy.
At frame Z133, the frame Zapruder resumed filming at, the limo was slightly farther down Elm St. than Donaldson thought it was when the first shot was fired.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg
I believe the shot was actually fired about one second later than Donahue recalled at frame Z148.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z148.jpg
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