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Was Oswald a "dangle" in a planned-to-fail mole hunt run by a mole?
Benjamin Cole:
So, Solie, Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter were "in on it," and Snyder was aware that he participated in a plan to send LHO to Moscow as a CIA asset.
Then we likely have a cut-out involved somewhere, between LHO and Solie, and the other high-level CIA'ers.
And LHO.
So, in your conspiracy theory, a minimum of six people knew the CIA had sent LHO to Russia, including LHO.
Do you think there were more than that?
Why did Snyder never reveal he had, perhaps unwittingly, participated in a plan to send LHO to Russia?
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on April 22, 2026, 11:18:30 AM ---So, Solie, Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter were "in on it," and Snyder was aware that he participated in a plan to send LHO to Moscow as a CIA asset.
Then we likely have a cut-out involved somewhere, between LHO and Solie, and the other high-level CIA'ers.
And LHO.
So, in your conspiracy theory, a minimum of six people knew the CIA had sent LHO to Russia, including LHO.
Do you think there were more than that?
Why did Snyder never reveal he had, perhaps unwittingly, participated in a plan to send LHO to Russia?
--- End quote ---
"Then we likely have a cut-out involved somewhere, between LHO and Solie, and the other high-level CIA'ers." WE?
My "conspiracy theory"? Does the KGB (today's SVR and FSB) do conspiracies? (Other than get "useful idiot" (or worse) Donald Trump elected, that is.)
Did I say McCoy and Kisevalter were definitely "in on it"?
All Oswald had to do was walk into the Embassy, toss his passport on Snyder's desk, say he wanted to defect, and tell Snyder and the KGB microphones in the walls that he was going to commit U-2 espionage against the U.S. Why would he require a "cut out"?
In my "conspiracy theory," a minimum of four people knew that "the CIA" had sent Oswald to Moscow: Solie, Angleton, Snyder, and Oswald., but only one of them (Solie) knew that it was really the KGB who had sent him there.
"Why did Snyder never reveal he had, perhaps unwittingly, participated in a plan to send LHO to Russia?" Probably so Jim DiEugenio and Jefferson Morley wouldn't accuse him of masterminding the assassination.
Benjamin Cole:
TG--
Seems to me, under your conspiracy theory, State Dep't man Snyder, former CIA, would have been obligated after the JFKA to come forward, even unasked, and tell what he knew of a CIA plan to send LHO to Russia. After all, the US president had just been assassinated. Snyder knew how LHO had ended up in Russia, if not why.
Yet the story for public consumption was that LHO went to Russia of his own volition.
Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter knew nothing of the Solie plan?
How did Solie contact LHO? Directly (seems unlikely).
Through a cut-out? Then the cut-out would also have some information he/she should have made public.
You have crafted an interesting conspiracy theory regarding an aspect of the JFKA.
There are weaknesses...we have to assume Snyder never told anyone of his role in placing LHO into Russia, and the Solie-cutout-LHO individual also kept mum.
Forever, both of them. That's plausible.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on April 23, 2026, 01:35:27 AM ---TG--
Seems to me, under your conspiracy theory, State Dep't man Snyder, former CIA, would have been obligated after the JFKA to come forward, even unasked, and tell what he knew of a CIA plan to send LHO to Russia. After all, the US president had just been assassinated. Snyder knew how LHO had ended up in Russia, if not why.
Yet the story for public consumption was that LHO went to Russia of his own volition.
Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter knew nothing of the Solie plan?
How did Solie contact LHO? Directly (seems unlikely).
Through a cut-out? Then the cut-out would also have some information he/she should have made public.
You have crafted an interesting conspiracy theory regarding an aspect of the JFKA.
There are weaknesses...we have to assume Snyder never told anyone of his role in placing LHO into Russia, and the Solie-cutout-LHO individual also kept mum.
Forever, both of them. That's plausible.
--- End quote ---
I didn't say McCoy and Kisevalter "knew nothing" of the Solie plan. Neither did I say McCoy and Kisevalter "knew all about it."
Regardless, why do you insist on calling my theory a conspiracy theory?
Not all Cold War Espionage students and experts agree that Roger Hollis, head of MI5, was a GRU mole, but there's lots of circumstantial evidence that indicates that he was, and that he may even have betrayed GRU Col. Oleg Penkovsky to the Soviets.
Heck, some students and experts (including James Angleton and true-defector Anatoly Golitsyn) even believed that Penkovsky was under the control of the KGB when he informed JFK about the set-up and fueling times of the nukes in Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis so that JFK could "call Khruschev's bluff" and "force" him to remove said nukes in exchange for our removing our Jupiters from Italy and Turkey and to abandon The Monroe Doctrine -- Khruschev's goal all along.
Are people who believe either of those theories "conspiracy theorists"?
Benjamin Cole:
TG--
"Regardless, if my theory is correct, only Solie and maybe two other probable moles in the CIA -- Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter -- knew that the mole hunt was planned to fail.
The few other people who knew that 'Oswald was on a mission for the CIA' (like Angleton and Snyder) thought it was a regular, planned-to-succeed, mole hunt."--TG
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OK, so in your conspiracy theory, KGB mole Solie conspired with LHO, to send him to Russia. Likely there was a cut-out between LHO and Solie, meaning am unidentified third co-conspirator.
State Dep't man Snyder, after the JFKA, knew that he had cooperated with a CIA plan to plant LHO in Russia, meaning that LHO was a CIA asset, but Snyder stayed mute for life.
Snyder went to his grave hiding the fact that (as far as he knew) a CIA asset, even if a former asset or onetime CIA asset, had murdered JFK. That is interesting.
Angleton likewise.
Leonard V. McCoy and George Kisevalter are maybes, and likely KGB moles anyway, and can expected to lie.
That is an interesting and plausible conspiracy theory you have limned.
I do not know enough about Snyder to know if he could stay silent, post-JFKA. He sure had a story to tell.
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