Darnell Colourised Film & Willis Slide - Prayer Man Or Prayer Woman? You Decide

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Jimmy Darnell Colourised Film And Phil Willis Slide

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Jimmy Darnell Colourised Film And Phil Willis Slide

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Thanks for posting this colorized Darnell Film snippet.
There's a lot to examine here. I am looking at your posting of this over on "You Tube". Among many things, this snippet makes clear that there is very little Backside/Elm St Extension side of the Island. What we are seeing on the Wiegman Film, behind Fedora Man and the people standing alongside him, is the unoccupied surface of the Elm St Extension. The Wiegman Film clearly shows NO CAR parked alongside the Island. NOT YET!

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Ok lets have another look at Adams & Styles great escape.
Adams said that after the shots they stood at the 4th floor window for 20 sec.  Styles said a bit longer. Adams said that they went to the back stairs.  Styles said that they went to the elevator first.  How long did they stand at the elevator (was the electricity off).  From there they would have walked throo the storage area to the back stairs via the door near the elevator, not the door from the office.  Anyhow the elevator detour adds a few seconds to their transit.  I reckon that they didn’t enter the storage area until 40 sec after the shots.

After entering the storage area Adams & Styles would have taken about 48 sec to exit to the Houston dock, this route having the same overall distance & the same length of stairway & the same time as the Oswald re-enactment.  Actually, they were rushing, whilst in The 6th Floor Museum youtube re-enactment "Oswald" aint, so they would have exited in say 40 sec, making it a total of 80 sec (instead of Adam's claimed 60 sec).

In Secret Service re-enactments in the TSBD Oswald took 78 sec & 74 sec to get to the 2nd floor (after the last shot).  In a modern Sixth Floor Museum re-enactment in a similar warehouse Oswald took 48 seconds without rushing.  In the Secret Service re-enactment the Agent is mincing along nonchalant & smelling the flowers as he goes.  He must have been paid by the second.  In The 6th Floor Museum re-enactment "Oswald" was paid by the yard, but wasn’t rushing, & didn’t take any short cuts.

The critical thing is that Oswald had already quietly snuk around the say 8 paces from one leg of the stairs to the other leg well before Adams & Styles had entered the storage area.  Indeed he would have already reached the 2nd floor & exited the stairs if Adams & Styles took 48 sec to enter the storage area.

Even if Oswald did take say 8 paces on the 4th floor (to get from one leg of the stairs to the other leg) while Adams & Styles were already in the storage area then there is a possibility that they couldn’t easily see him.  The sight line from the door to the stairs is a long diagonal (they entered via the door near the elevator)(ie very near the Houston wall), there are concrete columns, there are high stacks of boxes, & possibly other infrastructure, & Adams & Styles & Oswald are not tall.  Photos of other floors in the TSBD show that it is nigh impossible to see very far on a diagonal if there are stacks of boxes.  And Oswald's 8 paces do not cross a window.  But we don’t need any of that stuff.  Oswald had already passed the 4th floor when Adams & Styles entered the storage area.

In Baker & Truly re-enactments Baker took 90 sec & 75 sec to get up to the 2nd floor after the first shot (equal to  100 sec or 85 sec if after the shots).  Baker said that he had been  slower than that there 90 sec, so lets call it 100 sec.  In which case Baker & Truly enter the storage area of the first floor at say 80 sec.  That allows 20 sec to gallop to the elevators, they are sitting at floor 5 & 6 say, the west elevator wont come down probly koz the gate has been left open. So, they then gallop to the stairs & up one floor to the 2nd floor (where they see Oswald).

Adams exited the TSBD to the Houston dock  80 sec after the shots.  I wont call it the rear dock koz the Elm St dock (the Elm dock) is sometimes called the rear dock.  Baker & Truly entered the storage area at 80 sec.  Hence Baker & Truly didn’t see Adams & Styles.  In any case their sight-line would have been affected by stacks of books.  In any case 2 gals exiting that far doorway would not have worried them & would be forgettable.  And there were other workers on the first floor.  And Baker & Truly were hell bent on getting to the roof.

It’s a mystery why Baker was at all worried by Oswald, ie on the lowly 2nd floor, the first level that they reached on the way up, with 6 more levels to go after the 2nd (the roof being level 8 ).  Had they used an elevator (ie Plan A) Baker would have happily gone straight up to the 7th floor. He wouldn’t have stopped at every floor & taken valuable time to check for snipers.  For sure he wouldn’t have stopped the elevator at the 2nd floor, even if he had seen Oswald.  The whole sorry saga reminds me of a Monty Python film where the knight slays everyone he meets on the way up a castle tower to save a damsel in distress.

So, where were we, we have Adams & Styles exiting at 80 sec & Baker & Truly entering at 80 sec.  There is no problem there at all.  That leaves us with one big problem.  Why did Oswald stop at the 2nd floor?   He was at least 10 sec ahead of Adams & Styles.  Had Oswald not stopped he would have been at the front door before Baker & Truly.  Hell, it could have been Oswald that volunteered to show Baker the stairs, ie doing a U-turn, & praps going all the way back up with Baker.  On the way up it would have been Oswald saying "that man works here".
Oswald had time.  But he dug in on the 2nd floor.  Why?

Nearly forgot. Praps i should have written this first.  Dorothy Garner followed Adams & Styles to the stairs.  I think that Garner belatedly decided to follow Adams & Styles down in the elevator.  And she saw that Adams & Styles had headed for the back stairs, so she praps decided to follow, instead of taking the front stairs.  Anyhow she didn’t go down the back stairs, she looked out the nearby western window (there is no western window in her office), & there sure was lots to see, bedlam, so she watched for we don’t know how long.

She said she saw Baker & Truly gallop past (they would have been 10 ft away).  But Baker & Truly make no mention of Garner, certainly Baker didn’t slay her, i mean stick his gun in her ribs.  And of course she didn’t see Oswald, or anyone else, Oswald was long gone.

Anyhow, Oswald got to the 2nd floor in 48 sec.  Baker & Truly got there in 100 sec.
Why did Oswald stop?
What did Oswald do for 52 sec?