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The All-Important Curtain Rods
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 17, 2026, 11:04:09 PM ---I don't believe for a second that Oswald went to Irving to get curtain rods. I believe it was a white lie to avoid having to tell a 19 years old co-worker that he was really going to try and save his marriage.
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I guess he couldn't have waited one more day to save his marriage.
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He had not seen his kids during the previous weekend and Marina was angry with him. It would be a valid question to ask why he did not wait until the upcoming weekend, but when matters of the heart come in to play, people are frequently not rational.
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Throwing your life away by killing the POTUS is not exactly rational either.
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Frazier said he loved kids. Not only his own, but all sorts of kids in Inving that he would play with. The human side of Oswald is very often ignored or simple dismissed. We don't know what happened between Marina and Lee from Monday to Thursday, but perhaps Oswald simply figured he couldn't wait any longer.
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He couldn't wait any longer to kill the POTUS. That's the one thing that couldn't wait for the weekend.
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Nobody knows what was in the bag Oswald carried on Friday morning,
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Just because you don't know doesn't mean others haven't figure it out.
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so it could easily have been a mere prop to satisfy Frazier's possible curiosity that he got rid of as soon as he entered the TSBD.
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<chuckle> After 62 years, that's the best you could come up with.
--- Quote ---Was that the case? I honestly don't know and nobody does.
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I know exactly what was in the bag and why it was in the bag. I'm amazed it has you stumped.
--- Quote ---It's just a possibility which LNs will instantly dismiss. Some things will never change.
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Like CTs being unable to figure out an open and shut double murder case that the DPD had solved in the first 12 hours.
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The problem is this case is there are so many assumptions and so few verifiable dots to connect that you can make up any kind of narrative you like and that's exactly what happened. Does the narrative have any relation with reality? I seriously doubt it.
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There are no problems in figuring out what happened. That's why Wade formally charged Oswald for both murders in the first 12 hours. He had a slam dunk case.
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 18, 2026, 01:09:25 AM ---I guess he couldn't have waited one more day to save his marriage.
Throwing your life away by killing the POTUS is not exactly rational either.
He couldn't wait any longer to kill the POTUS. That's the one thing that couldn't wait for the weekend.Just because you don't know doesn't mean others haven't figure it out.
I know exactly what was in the bag and why it was in the bag. I'm amazed it has you stumped.
Like CTs being unable to figure out an open and shut double murder case that the DPD had solved in the first 12 hours.
There are no problems in figuring out what happened. That's why Wade formally charged Oswald for both murders in the first 12 hours. He had a slam dunk case.
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This is what a post by a pathetic fanatic looks like.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 18, 2026, 12:53:55 AM ---Don't just love speculation?
Now all we have to do is wait until you start claiming it's actually a fact.
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At least my speculation is based on the facts of this case whereas you speculate and make up an alternative narrative based on your paranoid delusions!
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 17, 2026, 11:04:09 PM ---I don't believe for a second that Oswald went to Irving to get curtain rods.
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JohnM
Benjamin Cole:
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Yes, LHO's curtain rods explanation appears fabricated.
LHO carried a peculiar package into the TSBD on 11.22. Of course, security at the TSBD was lax; LHO could have secreted the M-C rifle, or parts of it, into the TSBD almost any night, or previous days.
LHO remains the best suspect as the TSBD6 shooter. LHO was invisible when shots rang out, and a slender light-skinned male was seen in the TSBD6 sniper window while shots rang out. LHO was inside the TSBD when JFK and JBC were shot, and a bullet struck a curb near Tague.
LHO's rifle was found on TSBD6, and three shells found at the sniper window, and three loud shots heard deep inside the TSBD (Geneva Hine testimony).
Sure looks like LHO took three shots in the direction of the JFK limo on 11.22, from TSBD6.
However, all of that does not preclude others participating in the JFKA.
The smoke-and-bang show on the GK, and the heavy, telltale scent of gunsmoke in the GK area in the immediate aftermath of the shooting indicates gunfire in the GK area (the wind was blowing towards the TSBD from the Third Street overpass, thus ruling out TSBD6 as the source of that gunsmoke).
My layman's view of the Z-film is the Gov. JBC is shot ~Z-295.
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
Again as a layman, I lean against JBC holding onto his Stetson hat in his right hand, after being shot through the right-hand wrist (Z-272). JBC turning around to check on JFK, after being shot through the chest, also fails the believability test.
So, I suspect two gunsels behind the JFK limo.
My other suspicion is that the JFKAC was very small, probably three individuals including LHO, nationalists, zealots or ideologues, acting without any oversight. Perhaps the other two were murdered when G2 figured out what they had done.
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BTW, small nationalist/ideological conspiracies were in the air during 1940-60s.
"On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican nationalists—Lolita Lebrón, Rafael Cancel Miranda, Irvin Flores Rodríguez, and Andrés Figueroa Cordero—opened fire from the House of Representatives visitor's gallery in Washington, D.C., to protest U.S. colonial rule. The attack wounded five Congressmen.
Key Details of the 1954 Attack:
The Attack: The group traveled from New York, entered the Capitol, and fired roughly 15 to 30 shots. They shouted "ˇViva Puerto Rico libre!" and waved the Puerto Rican flag."
Then we have--
"On November 1, 1950, Puerto Rican nationalists Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola attempted to assassinate President Harry S. Truman at Blair House in Washington, D.C., seeking to highlight the independence movement. The attack failed, resulting in the death of Torresola and White House Police officer Leslie Coffelt, with Collazo wounded and imprisoned."
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I think the CT'ers have allowed their left-wing ideologies to overrule the obvious facts on the ground---LHO was a Marxist and took shots at JFK. There was a conspiracy, and LHO was a part of it.
The LN'ers, with much less ideological fervor, have also tried to force a narrative on the facts---the WC narrative, that followed President LBJ's instructions that nothing be found that would trigger a nuke war with Russia.
But hey, just IMHO.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on April 18, 2026, 01:18:55 AM ---At least my speculation is based on the facts of this case whereas you speculate and make up an alternative narrative based on your paranoid delusions!
JohnM
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At least my speculation is based on the facts of this case
Hahahaha... keep telling yourself that and maybe one day you will actually believe it.
whereas you speculate and make up an alternative narrative based on your paranoid delusions!
What would be the point to speculate about an alternative narrative when the narrative you defend is nothing more than a fairitale.
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