Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[Andrew Mason]

Your reading comprehension seems to be as bad as your ability to properly weigh evidence. Who said the pigeons waited 3 seconds after the shot to fly off the roof. She turned in time to see the birds in flight. It's unlikely Marrion Baker saw the pigeons takeoff either unless he was looking at the roof when the shot was fired. Why would he have done that? He likely heard the shot, looked up and saw the pigeons in flight.

Rosemary Willis stopping at Z199 fits perfectly with her looking back to the TSBD a few frames later. I can't imagine that should would look back while she was still moving forward.

If the shot was just before z150 as you suggest, the pigeons were long gone by z202 when she turned her head. Pigeons are remarkably fast and quick to take flight. See:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/TcgqnqYbIpk

[John Corbett]

If the shot was just before z150 as you suggest, the pigeons were long gone by z202 when she turned her head. Pigeons are remarkably fast and quick to take flight. See:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/TcgqnqYbIpk

The elapsed time from the shot until Rosemary looked back was less than 3 seconds. I don't think the pigeons would have vanished in that amount of time.

[Andrew Mason]

The elapsed time from the shot until Rosemary looked back was less than 3 seconds. I don't think the pigeons would have vanished in that amount of time.

Fightened pigeons move fast and hit 60 mph easily. The time from z148 to z202 is 2.95 sec. Even at 30 mph (44 feet/sec) they would be well over 100 feet away from the TSBD when she turned.

[John Corbett]

Fightened pigeons move fast and hit 60 mph easily. The time from z148 to z202 is 2.95 sec. Even at 30 mph (44 feet/sec) they would be well over 100 feet away from the TSBD when she turned.

So now you're an ornithologist. So tell me, Professor.  How long does it take a pigeon to accelerate from 0 to 30 mph?

[Lance Payette]

So now you're an ornithologist. So tell me, Professor.  How long does it take a pigeon to accelerate from 0 to 30 mph?

"Pigeons are incredibly fast, capable of accelerating from a dead stop to 100 km/h (62 mph) in just 2 seconds."

I have confirmed this with three of my cats, who insist life isn't fair.

[Andrew Mason]

So now you're an ornithologist. So tell me, Professor.  How long does it take a pigeon to accelerate from 0 to 30 mph?

I am going to go out on a limb with the pigeon acceleration time and say less than a second. 

It's just science:  My reasoning is as follows: 1. The Tesla motor co. is named after Nikolai Tesla.  2. Tesla loved pigeons.  In fact, he is quoted as saying he loved pigeons "the way a man loves a woman".  3. It follows that Musk would not have made his fastest car much faster than a pigeon - that would not honour the memory of the namesake of his company.  4. So a pigeon acceleration time is at least equal to the fastest Tesla car, the Model S Plaid, which has a 0-60 mph acceleration of just under 2 seconds. 5. Assuming the acceleration is constant (it is actually quicker from the start), this would put 0-30 in just under a second. QED.

[John Corbett]

I am going to go out on a limb with the pigeon acceleration time and say less than a second. 

It's just science:  My reasoning is as follows: 1. The Tesla motor co. is named after Nikolai Tesla.  2. Tesla loved pigeons.  In fact, he is quoted as saying he loved pigeons "the way a man loves a woman".  3. It follows that Musk would not have made his fastest car much faster than a pigeon - that would not honour the memory of the namesake of his company.  4. So a pigeon acceleration time is at least equal to the fastest Tesla car, the Model S Plaid, which has a 0-60 mph acceleration of just under 2 seconds. 5. Assuming the acceleration is constant (it is actually quicker from the start), this would put 0-30 in just under a second. QED.

I didn't think your reasoning could get any nuttier. You surprised me.

Your claim ignores one important factor. When pigeons take off, their first move is usually to gain elevation. They usually do this for a couple seconds before acceleratign horizontally. There's no reason to believe the pigeons would be out of Rosemary Willis' field of vision by the time she looked up.