Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[John Corbett]

The TSBD shooter was not likely a professional shooter. It would have been much easier to shoot at a stationary JFK giving a speech. And one shot thru the chest from 200 yds away is not that difficult for the professional.

So the choice of the TSBD points to Oswald because it’s convenient being his place of work. It could also be some other TSBD worker without an alibi such as Jack Dougherty.

I made this same point when I did the podcast with Fred Litwin. Dealey Plaza would be an unlikely choice for a professional hitman. Not only would you have moving target but witnesses everywhere. A much better choice would have been when JFK was speaking to the crowd in front of the hotel in Ft. Worth that morning. A stationary target surrounded by tall buildings. One shot, one kill.

Oswald didn't choose the TSBD. It was the opportunity handed to him. It was a take it or leave it choice.

I also think it is absurd to think there would have been a hit team. Why would you shoot at JFK with multiple rifles if your intent was to frame one man. An professional hit man worth his salt wouldn't have needed more than one shot to take out JFK if he chose his location wisely, like the Ft. Worth hotel.

The TSBD shooter wasn’t apparently wearing a mask and he exposed himself to being  photographed as he stuck his rifle OUT the window and KEPT it stuck out for several seconds AFTER the last shot fired. That’s not what a professional would likely do.

The CT alternatives  for why a professional shooter would do such stupid actions would be that his employer required him to set up Oswald, or the shooter himself had a personal vendetta against Oswald.

I’m sure some CT has suggested that LBJ had his hit man Malcolm Wallace do the job but why the need to set up Oswald?

The idea that these imaginary plotters would need a fall guy is absurd too. Why would they need a patsy? That just complicates things. A competent hitman who fires one shot from a hidden location and then slips away makes much more sense. Oswald got spotted because he took three shots. That gave a few witnesses a chance to locate him. A sniper firing from a concealed location could easily disappear before anyone figured out where the shot came from. He would be gone almost as soon as the muzzle blast was heard by the people on the ground. Leave an untraceable rifle at the scene and just calmly leave the premises. Why care if the investigators had someone to pin it on? As long as the hitman couldn't be identified, that is all that would be needed. The people who hired him might make sure he slept with the fishes, just to be safe. Bugliosi made the point that if either the CIA or Mafia had hired the assassin, there would have been a car waiting for him outside to drive him to his death.

The killing of JFK wasn't a professional hit. It was carried out by a guy who was taught to shoot in the Marinee Corps and had some level of proficiency though not an expert. The location wasn't ideal but it was the only choice available to him so he took it.

[Andrew Mason]

I’m serious about an experiment with replica  (not real ) human bodies.

And I would like an actually CORRECT set up of the SN with boxes and pipes and a tree and a curving  road and the shooter required to not set up in fire position until a car moves past with 2 remote control androids  that can be adjusted and the JC android will be holding a Stetson hat with the  right hand.

I think this could be an interesting opportunity for  Elon Musk to set up this experiment both for testing androids,  Self driving cars AND proving or disproving the viability of the Z190/Z270  sequence shot theory.

An experiment duplicating the wounds exactly would be difficult to do.  None of the so-called tests of the SBT really duplicated the wounds. The best of these is probably the AST test:

as they used precise anatomically accurate replicas of the human torsos and bones. Their shot through the JFK torso struck the JBC torso’s ribs in mid armpit and went right through them at that point.

When it exited the torso and struck the pseudo-radius it did not have enough energy to shatter it (they had placed the radius vertically in front of the chest so it wasn’t even the glancing angle one would have with the wrist down near the lap.).  Even then the bullet was more deformed than CE399 and bounced off but did not penetrate the thigh:



This is a view of the CT scan of the damage to the torso:



In the actual wound of JBC’s torso the bullet struck the fifth rib farther back and went along the rib before destroying 10 cm of the rib starting at mid-axilla sending rib shards into the lower right lung.   So the trajectory through the torso and damage was quite different in the test than the actual shot.

[Michael Capasse]

It does pack quite a kick. But Oswald knew that because he had fired it many times before.

cite?

Mr. Rankin: …there are a good many stories about his practicing with a gun, you know, around various rifle ranges and so forth,
we have checked those out and none of them stand up at all. (Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964)

That is why he used the strap and put the rifle on boxes. 

How does he shoot a rifle mounted on boxes out of a window, that is about 12 inches from the floor and only open about 13 inches?

[Andrew Mason]

cite?

Mr. Rankin: …there are a good many stories about his practicing with a gun, you know, around various rifle ranges and so forth,
we have checked those out and none of them stand up at all. (Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964)

He had fired similar rifles before as a Marine. Marina said he admitted firing the MC at General Walker. He just had to have fired the MC once to experience the recoil.

How does he shoot a rifle mounted on boxes out of a window, that is about 12 inches from the floor and only open about 13 inches?

Use your imagination:

[Michael Capasse]

He had fired similar rifles before as a Marine. Marina said he admitted firing the MC at General Walker. He just had to have fired the MC once to experience the recoil.

He hadn't fired a Marine rifle in four years. Marina is an admitted liar.

Use your imagination:

Yes, very cartoon like. Especially an early shot before z-210.
Which box set up should I use?

[Michael Capasse]

You guys own rifles. I don't. How long can you go without cleaning it and still use it?

Interesting there is no sign of any maintenance kit for the gun. It is required.
He had the gun for 8 months. The bolt would stick, the crappy scope wobbled. The gun nut never bettered it.
And no cleaning kit. No empty shells. No shell boxes.  Nothing.

What excuse do you have for these?

[John Corbett]

cite?

Mr. Rankin: …there are a good many stories about his practicing with a gun, you know, around various rifle ranges and so forth,
we have checked those out and none of them stand up at all. (Executive Session | Jan. 27, 1964)

He would have paid cash at a rifle range so there would be no record of it. He also could have found an open area somewhere where he wouldn't have to pay. Some have speculated he could have practiced down by the Trinity River. In any case, lack of a record of his practicing does not rule out that he practiced. Carcano ammo is sold in boxes of 20. He fired one shot at Walker and had four rounds left when he shot JFK. That leaves 15 rounds unaccounted for. It's also possible he could have bought more than one box of ammo. We don't know how much he practiced or when, but it is probable he practiced somewhere, sometime. Regardless, there is conclusive evidence he fired three shots on 11/22/63 and three of those shots hit JFK.

How does he shoot a rifle mounted on boxes out of a window, that is about 12 inches from the floor and only open about 13 inches?

Not difficult at all. He could have fired from a kneeling position which he would have practiced in the USMC. He showed proficiency from that position. Only the first shot would have been complicated by the low window which might explain why he missed.