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Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 02, 2026, 08:54:25 PM ---The camera was a deaf witness and it cannot explain itself. Hearing witnesses can.
All I am doing is pointing out as a matter of fact what witnesses recalled and then stating what conclusions the evidence leads to. I have given you the 9 pages of shot spacing witness accounts that are distributed this way:
I gave you the lists of the others but you didn’t bother to read what they said so here is what they said:
I think you need to see what a deposit of 1900 joules of jacketed bullet kinetic energy into asphalt would look like.
The illustration is made by a person turning like JBC is in z271 and seeing how the lateral edge of the shoulder blade, the fifth rib and the right nipple form a straight line going left to right without passing through the pulmonary wall. But you do have to do it and feel where these parts are in order to see it.
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It's pointless even discussing any of this other crap because if you can't show it's even possible for JBC to be shot in the back at Z271, the rest of your theory collapses like a house of cards. I'm not even asking you to prove he was shot in that back at or about Z271. Just show us that it was possible. Apparently, you can't do that.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on May 02, 2026, 09:02:30 PM ---It's pointless even discussing any of this other crap because if you can't show it's even possible for JBC to be shot in the back at Z271, the rest of your theory collapses like a house of cards. I'm not even asking you to prove he was shot in that back at or about Z271. Just show us that it was possible. Apparently, you can't do that.
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I agree it is pointless if you can’t see that with your torso twisted and shoulders turned 90 degrees to the hips, the lateral edge of the scapula, middle of the right armpit and a point just below and medial to the right nipple align and form a left-to-right path that does not pass through the pleural cavity and right lung.
Why not at least try sitting and, keeping your hips facing forward and with your finger on the edge of your shoulder blade, turn your shoulders 90 degrees. Your finger, fifth rib at mid armpit and right nipple will form a straight line going around the pleural cavity.
I am not a thoracic surgeon nor anatomist, but it may be that the known bullet path requires that kind of right turn for the bullet path not to penetrate the pleural cavity.
I am also saddened that you would consider the honest recollections of the witnesses to the murder of your President to be crap.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 02, 2026, 09:45:50 PM ---I agree it is pointless if you can’t see that with your torso twisted and shoulders turned 90 degrees to the hips, the lateral edge of the scapula, middle of the right armpit and a point just below and medial to the right nipple align and form a left-to-right path that does not pass through the pleural cavity and right lung.
Why not at least try sitting and, keeping your hips facing forward and with your finger on the edge of your shoulder blade, turn your shoulders 90 degrees. Your finger, fifth rib at mid armpit and right nipple will form a straight line going around the pleural cavity.
I am not a thoracic surgeon nor anatomist, but it may be that the known bullet path requires that kind of right turn for the bullet path not to penetrate the pleural cavity.
I am also saddened that you would consider the honest recollections of the witnesses to the murder of your President to be crap.
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It's pointless even discussing any of this other crap because if you can't show it's even possible for JBC to be shot in the back at Z271, the rest of your theory collapses like a house of cards. I'm not even asking you to prove he was shot in that back at or about Z271. Just show us that it was possible. Apparently, you can't do that.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on May 02, 2026, 11:47:42 PM ---It's pointless even discussing any of this other crap because if you can't show it's even possible for JBC to be shot in the back at Z271, the rest of your theory collapses like a house of cards. I'm not even asking you to prove he was shot in that back at or about Z271. Just show us that it was possible. Apparently, you can't do that.
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All I have done is show that the recollections of witnesses overwhelmingly put the first shot hitting JFK in the neck and the second shot striking JBC in the right armpit after the midpoint between the first and third, and the third striking JFK in the head.
So, according to that evidence the second shot occurred when JBC was turned sideways. That is not my “theory”. That just follows from that witness evidence. And, this is exactly what Nellie and Gayle Newman recalled seeing shortly after the events.
Now you are saying that you can prove that, despite being independent and mutually consistent, this evidence is all wrong. So it is up to you to show that what the witnesses said happened could not have occurred. So why don’t you show us why the bullet path through JBC ‘s torso doesn’t work at z271 but does at z222?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 03, 2026, 01:42:52 AM ---All I have done is show that the recollections of witnesses overwhelmingly put the first shot hitting JFK in the neck and the second shot striking JBC in the right armpit after the midpoint between the first and third, and the third striking JFK in the head.
So, according to that evidence the second shot occurred when JBC was turned sideways. That is not my “theory”. That just follows from that witness evidence. And, this is exactly what Nellie and Gayle Newman recalled seeing shortly after the events.
Now you are saying that you can prove that, despite being independent and mutually consistent, this evidence is all wrong. So it is up to you to show that what the witnesses said happened could not have occurred. So why don’t you show us why the bullet path through JBC ‘s torso doesn’t work at z271 but does at z222?
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It's pointless even discussing any of this other crap because if you can't show it's even possible for JBC to be shot in the back at Z271, the rest of your theory collapses like a house of cards. I'm not even asking you to prove he was shot in that back at or about Z271. Just show us that it was possible. Apparently, you can't do that.
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