The Brown Paper Bag

[John Mytton]

Or was Frazier still a very scared young man in 1964 who had just a year earlier been thru an interrogation with Fritz where  Frazier thought Fritz was about to strike him in the face.?

You hit the nail on the head.
As soon as Frazier heard the shots, he instantly knew it was Oswald, when Frazier went back inside the Depository he went to eat his lunch all alone in the basement? WTF?
Then after he left in the early afternoon, Frazier went to visit his Stepfather in Hospital?
Then we have Linnie Mae Randle's initial confession to the FBI that the package was three feet long, almost the same size as the one in evidence, how would she know the size of some random paper bag with Oswald's prints which was found in Oswald's sniper's nest?







JohnM

[Zeon Mason]

One other thing, the palm print in the bag was NOT found at the bottom of the bag. WRONG.

The palm print was in the MIDDLE of the bag. And that’s the main PROBLEM because Linnie Mae Randel said Oswald was holding the package at the TOP  with just one hand , while Frazier saw the BOTTOM of the package in the cupped hand of Oswalds right hand.

So …if the package contained an 8lb rifle ,  2 palm prints at top and bottom of package  should have been found given how much force the paper was pressed against the hand.

It’s possible SOME % of evaporation could have happened over a 3 hour period but it’s hard to believe 100% did, without even a trace of prints at the bottom and only 1 small tip of a finger print at the top?

But the probability of prints 100% evaporating diminishes even more when considering the  many times that Oswald probably touched that bag while he carried the rifle in it.

1.From Paines garage to Fraziers car
2.From Frazier car to some hiding place in the attached annex warehouse ( because Jack Dougherty did not see anything in Oswald’s hand when Oswald came thru the TSBD rear door)
3. From warehouse ground floor up to 7th floor to be assembled
4. From 7th to 6th floor at about 12:15 if Oswald was the man that Arnold Rowland saw at the SW window.
5. From where ever on 6th floor Oswald temporarily hid the rifle after he left the 6th floor to go back down to 2nd floor lunchroom to be seen by Carolyn Arnold at 2:16 or 2:17.
6. From the  hiding place to the SE window when Oswald returned to 6th floor after Bonnie Ray Williams left the 6th floor by 12:23.

So there are possibly 6 times at least that Oswald carried the 8lbs rifle in the package and yet there was just this one palm print in the middle of the package and one little itty bitty tip of a finger print at the top of the package.

And the number of times Oswald touched the paper while making the bag, folding and unfolding the bag, taping the bag ( didn’t even trap some print between tape and bag?) makes this an incredible amazingly mystery bag that all prints except just one palm print and the little finger top print evaporated 100%.

[Zeon Mason]

You hit the nail on the head.
As soon as Frazier heard the shots, he instantly knew it was Oswald, when Frazier went back inside the Depository he went to eat his lunch all alone in the basement? WTF?
Then after he left in the early afternoon, Frazier went to visit his Stepfather in Hospital?
Then we have Linnie Mae Randle's initial confession to the FBI that the package was three feet long, almost the same size as the one in evidence, how would she know the size of some random paper bag with Oswald's prints which was found in Oswald's sniper's nest?







JohnM

You did a judo move on me LOL. That’s NOT exactly what I meant about Frazier being scared

I think he was scared in 63/64 initially and went along with the idea the bag must have contained the rifle.

But NOW , in 2026 Frazier said he does NOT think the bag contained a rifle. He has not changed his mind AGAIN has he?

It’s a leap imo to conclude Frazier instantly knew Oswald was the shooter. Unless you are agreeing with Tom the Gravedigger that Frazier is an accomplice?

[John Corbett]

It doesn't surprise me at all that Frazier has convinced himself that the bag did not contain a rifle and Oswald was not the shooter. That must have been a terrible thing for a 19 year old to have to live with, knowing he had unwittingly driven a presidential assassin to the scene of his crime. As more and more people began to dispute Oswald was the assassin, it gave Frazier a reason to relieve himself of that burden. I can understand why he would eagerly want to believe he was not an unknowing accessory to the crime.

[Tom Graves]

It doesn't surprise me at all that Frazier has convinced himself that the bag did not contain a rifle and Oswald was not the shooter. That must have been a terrible thing for a 19 year old to have to live with, knowing he had unwittingly driven a presidential assassin to the scene of his crime. As more and more people began to dispute Oswald was the assassin, it gave Frazier a reason to relieve himself of that burden. I can understand why he would eagerly want to believe he was not an unknowing accessory to the crime.

You have a double-negative in your final sentence.

[John Corbett]

You have a double-negative in your final sentence.

I have had to correct several double negatives in recent days but I don't see one in the post you commented on.

[Tom Graves]

I have had to correct several double negatives in recent days but I don't see one in the post you commented on.

Not unknowing