Robert Groden claims has original Wiegman film, says Prayerman is not LHO

[Royell Storing]

Groden has several storage units packed full of stuff. In that particular one in that video, he has most of his 16mm and 35mm copies of all of the films. I have an inventory that he made of all of the most important ones. In another storage unit, he's got probably 50+ boxes of unmarked VHS tapes of various things. I know he would tape every news special and documentary that aired on TV. He's also got some U-Matic tapes of scans from his film copies of things, as well as the master/original tapes of several of his TV appearances. If I remember correctly, he has the master tape of his March 6, 1975 showing of the Zapruder film on Good Night America.

I'm being intentionally vague, because his wife asked me to remove all of the images and videos I had posted of inside his house and storage units since he wasn't in the best health, and I think they were scared that someone will want to break in to steal his stuff. There's also just some items he has that I cannot talk about publicly, at least not while he's alive. I'm writing a biography on Groden that will detail most of what everyone wants to know which is to be released after his passing.

Thanks for the compliments. I'm trying to post on forums like this more to clear certain things up regarding Groden, among other things, but I don't always remember to look here, and it doesn't help that I keep forgetting my login info.

A bit off topic, but FYI, the tape I posted about 3 years ago with all of that WBAP footage (including the complete Darnell film), I got that from Groden, and although the quality of the footage is less than ideal, I was able to confirm that the tape was made from the 6th Floor Museum's 16mm 1st gen copy of the Darnell film. I got access to a more extended version of their 2K scan of that 1st gen copy, and it has all of the same footage in the same order, and has the same yellow-ish color to it (I'm still uncertain what exactly caused that color).

Sorry to ramble on about things, but I figured you all would want to know a lot of this about Groden, etc.

     Your "You Tube" posting of "The Full Darnell Film" is exceptionally rare. It includes that segment showing the Elm St Ext panning back to the Officer Harkness + Buddy Walthers + No Glove Motorcycle Cop encounter inside the railroad yard. That segment is extremely valuable with respect to time stamping.

    Groden letting you walk through/film his storage unit says much about You. Your parents too. What you're doing can get rough. Keep anything connected to that evolving Groden Bio in a very secure place.

[Bill Brown]

On film....

Reporter:  "Were you in the building at the time?"

Oswald:  "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."

Oswald admits, on film, that he was inside the building at the time of the shooting.  Therefore, Oswald was not out by the front steps.  If Oswald was not out by the front steps, then he is not prayer man.  If Oswald is not prayer man, then who cares who prayer man was.

[Gerry Down]

Groden has several storage units packed full of stuff. In that particular one in that video, he has most of his 16mm and 35mm copies of all of the films. I have an inventory that he made of all of the most important ones. In another storage unit, he's got probably 50+ boxes of unmarked VHS tapes of various things. I know he would tape every news special and documentary that aired on TV. He's also got some U-Matic tapes of scans from his film copies of things, as well as the master/original tapes of several of his TV appearances. If I remember correctly, he has the master tape of his March 6, 1975 showing of the Zapruder film on Good Night America.

If I remember correctly, Groden once said that some woman stole all his material. I think her name was Diane or something. Did Groden ever mention this to you as I'm surprised he still has so much stuff if someone once stole all of his material.

[Royell Storing]

On film....

Reporter:  "Were you in the building at the time?"

Oswald:  "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."

Oswald admits, on film, that he was inside the building at the time of the shooting.  Therefore, Oswald was not out by the front steps.  If Oswald was not out by the front steps, then he is not prayer man.  If Oswald is not prayer man, then who cares who prayer man was.

"Prayer Man" might be a living eyewitness: (1) to the assassination, (2) a possible early 1st shot that missed, (3) etc. Knowing the ID of Prayer Man holds value beyond the Oswald stuff.

[Alex Harris]

If I remember correctly, Groden once said that some woman stole all his material. I think her name was Diane or something. Did Groden ever mention this to you as I'm surprised he still has so much stuff if someone once stole all of his material.

It was one of Groden's ex-wives that stole some things. It's hard to tell exactly what she took, but she did take some stuff. It would be nearly impossible to take everything he has. Groden has 4 storage units and a house full of stuff. At one point he owned the house next door to him and used it exclusively for storage, but had to sell the house when he became short on money and had to move everything into his house he lives in.

For example, he has about 4 or 5 big tote boxes of photos he took on the set of "JFK" in 1991. He probably has around 5,000 photos just from the JFK movie.

[Gerry Down]

For example, he has about 4 or 5 big tote boxes of photos he took on the set of "JFK" in 1991. He probably has around 5,000 photos just from the JFK movie.

These would make a nice book all on their own.

[Royell Storing]

It was one of Groden's ex-wives that stole some things. It's hard to tell exactly what she took, but she did take some stuff. It would be nearly impossible to take everything he has. Groden has 4 storage units and a house full of stuff. At one point he owned the house next door to him and used it exclusively for storage, but had to sell the house when he became short on money and had to move everything into his house he lives in.

For example, he has about 4 or 5 big tote boxes of photos he took on the set of "JFK" in 1991. He probably has around 5,000 photos just from the JFK movie.

   If you have not done this already, You need to volunteer your services to compile an inventory of the Groden stuff that is currently spread all over hell's half acre. This can be on paper and/or filmed. Summer should give you the needed time to at least begin this. It would also go well with the Groden Bio your are currently working on.