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S. M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 24, 2026, 04:44:46 AM --- Once again, your weak JFK Assassination Foundation is showing. Baker did Not "ask" Truly if "Oswald worked there". Do the research.
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From Baker's signed report:
The manager said, "I know that man, he works here."
What difference does it make whether Baker asked Truly or Truly volunteered the information. Baker got the information and decided to continue up the stairs to where he believed the shots were fired from. Baker had no way of knowing the shooter was an employee.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 24, 2026, 04:44:46 AM ---Baker did not "ask" Truly if "Oswald worked there."
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Dear Royell,
Regardless, given the fact that
1) Baker believed the shots had come from six floors higher (i.e., the roof), and
2) Oswald was on the second floor when he encountered him, and
3) Oswald was calm, and
4) Truly vouched for Oswald's employment there,
It was logical for Police Officer Cop Officer Baker to not waste time patting Oswald down to see if he was concealing a rifle in his pocket, but to let him enjoy is Coke-Cola and for Truly and himself to continue their potentially dangerous journey upwards.
-- Tom
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 24, 2026, 11:32:05 AM ---From Baker's signed report:
The manager said, "I know that man, he works here."
What difference does it make whether Baker asked Truly or Truly volunteered the information. Baker got the information and decided to continue up the stairs to where he believed the shots were fired from. Baker had no way of knowing the shooter was an employee.
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Your bias has blinded you. This is sad to witness.
The discussion was about Baker NOT PATTING Oswald down. Graves said that Baker asked Oswald if he worked at the TSBD. I replied this never happened. Officer Baker did NOT even do that. The Point Being? Baker's display of Total Incompetence amid searching for an "active" shooter inside the TSBD. And, Baker's incompetence can therefore also be on display in his WC Testimony. His testimony gets very blurry when he sees 2 people near the elevator, and then again with Oswald in the lunchroom and the coke bottle stuff. Please shake yourself and wake up!
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 24, 2026, 03:22:51 PM --- Your bias has blinded you. This is sad to witness.
The discussion was about Baker NOT PATTING Oswald down. Graves said that Baker asked Oswald if he worked at the TSBD. I replied this never happened. Officer Baker did NOT even do that. The Point Being? Baker's display of Total Incompetence amid searching for an "active" shooter inside the TSBD. And, Baker's incompetence can therefore also be on display in his WC Testimony. His testimony gets very blurry when he sees 2 people near the elevator, and then again with Oswald in the lunchroom and the coke bottle stuff. Please shake yourself and wake up!
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Your comment about my bias blinding me set off a irony alert.
You seem to be the only one fixated on Baker having not patted Oswald down, as if this was some sort of requirement. Cops do not pat down every person of interest they come in contact with. You keep insisting without any support that this was SOP.
For the record, Baker never said Oswald had a Coke when he saw him. Someone else wrote up a statement for Baker to sign, based upon notes taken during the interview. Baker read the report and initially refused to sign because he had never said Oswald had a Coke. He was asked to cross out that reference and initial the correction which he did before signing the corrected document.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 24, 2026, 03:35:46 PM ---Your comment about my bias blinding me set off a irony alert.
You seem to be the only one fixated on Baker having not patted Oswald down, as if this was some sort of requirement. Cops do not pat down every person of interest they come in contact with. You keep insisting without any support that this was SOP.
For the record, Baker never said Oswald had a Coke when he saw him. Someone else wrote up a statement for Baker to sign, based upon notes taken during the interview. Baker read the report and initially refused to sign because he had never said Oswald had a Coke. He was asked to cross out that reference and initial the correction which he did before signing the corrected document.
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Please STOP with the baloney. Officer Baker entered the TSBD in search of an Active Shooter(s). Baker actually Pursued Oswald after seeing him moving away from him through the door window. Baker did Not "pat" Oswald down, or even ask him for ID. If a cop comes into contact with someone they deem to be a, "person of interest", you bet they "pat" them down. Especially when this "contact" happens while in pursuit of an Active Shooter(s).
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