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Podcast On Tippit
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 14, 2026, 08:17:44 AM ---
Hilariously stupid. Just how pathetic can you be? First of all, they found Oswald's dark grey jacket at the TSBD, so that's the one he must have been wearing on Friday morning.
Secondly, even if he had been wearing the light grey jacket that morning, then how in the world did that get to Oak Cliff for Oswald to pick it up and put on? Oswald left the TSBD wearing no jacket, right? Roberts said he entered the rooming house wearing no jacket, right? So, come on, genius, tell is how did the light grey jacket get to the rooming house if Oswald had worn it to the TSBD on Friday morning?
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Hahahaha! Gotcha, Frazier your star witness with the photographic memory had never seen CE163 ever before and don't forget that Frazier sat right next to Oswald for about half an hour on the way to work! And you expect Frazier to remember Oswald in the five or so minutes they walked from the car to the loading dock, where Oswald ended up about 50 feet away??
Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.
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JohnM
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Bill Brown on April 14, 2026, 11:21:09 AM ---GREAT find, John. I've never caught that before.
Thanks. That's very valuable.
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Yeah, you bet. It makes Weidmann's story about Jacket swaps more ridiculous than ever! He is such a Dufus. Anyway, here's a higher resolution photo that better shows the gathered material.
JohnM
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 14, 2026, 08:57:35 AM ---My guess is that Helen Markham very likely timed it so that she would be at the Jefferson & Patton bus stop at approximately 1:15 every day, and she would (of course) then catch the next bus to come by that was going downtown (whenever that was, at 1:22, or 1:26, whenever). That way, she would be a little early to catch the next bus. Makes sense to me anyway.
I agree, that's the most likely scenario. Buses seldom run on exactly the time of their schedule. But Markham indicated that she would be at the bus stop at 1.15 and she would then just wait for the next bus to show up.
But that doesn't answer the question I asked Bill Brown. For Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 (regardles which bus she took, a delayed 1.12 or the 1.122) she still needed to walk two blocks in about five to six minutes to get there. So, she would have left 9th street at around 1.09 or 1.10 and get to 10th and Patton at about 1.13. According to Dale Myers, Tippit was shot at 1.14.30, so are we really to believe that Markham just stood around at the intersection of 10th and Patton for two minutes or so and likely risk (in her perception) missing her bus to work?
That doesn't make sense at all.
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We don't have time stamps for any event related to the Tippit shooting until a citizen radioed in the report from Tippit's cruiser. Every other event is based on ESTIMATED times. You cannot do precise calculations if you don't start with precise figures.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 14, 2026, 09:08:37 AM ---
Oh boy. Those elastic sections are in just about every jacket of that type. I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal. But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket. So much for similarity! You just see what you want to see.
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--- Quote ---But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket.
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Sure Oswald was a Gorilla, Hilarious!
--- Quote ---I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal.
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Wow, in 2026, you claim to own two of that type of jacket, please take a photo of the two jackets and show us the two elastic gathered sections on the back and I hope they're a light grey/beige shade! Then post them in this thread. Waiting....Zzzzzz...
JohnM
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 14, 2026, 12:08:49 PM ---We don't have time stamps for any event related to the Tippit shooting until a citizen radioed in the report from Tippit's cruiser. Every other event is based on ESTIMATED times. You cannot do precise calculations if you don't start with precise figures.
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So, Markham just missed he bus on a daily basis?
If you wan't to be considered to be serious, than act serious and cut of the crap. There is nothing reliable about the time stamps on the DPD radio. The chief on the dispatcher said it himself, you can not rely on the time stamps to get accurate times.
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