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Gunman in the pergola window...
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 21, 2026, 07:30:18 PM --- There's a big difference between a witness giving testimony that is "wrong" vs a "lie". For you to describe Witt's testimony as "wrong" vs what we see on the Bronson Film, signals you are not completely familiar with Witt's HSCA Testimony. There's nothing wrong with admitting this, and your unfamiliarity regarding the history of the Bronson Film. For you to reply with a "So?", is akin to a blind man reaching out in the dark. There's also nothing wrong with asking specific questions.
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If a person gives testimony that is demonstrably incorrect, they could simply be wrong or they could be lying. Perjury is when you give testimony that you know to me wrong and it is a serious crime. Most people when testifying under oath are going to try to give accurate accounts to the best of their ability. Human beings are fallible and don't always remember things exactly the way they happened. I have no reason to believe Witt deliberately falsified his testimony. I believe he testified to the event as best he remembered it. If it doesn't square with the film record, it doesn't prove he committed perjury. It means he had less than perfect memory which is true for all of us.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 21, 2026, 11:06:21 PM ---If a person gives testimony that is demonstrably incorrect, they could simply be wrong or they could be lying. Perjury is when you give testimony that you know to me wrong and it is a serious crime. Most people when testifying under oath are going to try to give accurate accounts to the best of their ability. Human beings are fallible and don't always remember things exactly the way they happened. I have no reason to believe Witt deliberately falsified his testimony. I believe he testified to the event as best he remembered it. If it doesn't square with the film record, it doesn't prove he committed perjury. It means he had less than perfect memory which is true for all of us.
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If you were an adult and inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63, you would remember whether you were walking toward Elm St and fighting to open your umbrella vs standing stock still and pumping your umbrella as JFK cruised by you. I don't believe this is an unreasonable expectation. I've watched his HSCA Testimony a couple of times. He seemed perfectly normal. Not a basket case or anything along those lines 15 yrs later. Witt ID'd himself as being the Umbrella Man. Nobody else has ID'd Witt as being the Umbrella Man. Nobody.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 21, 2026, 11:35:47 PM --- If you were an adult and inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63, you would remember whether you were walking toward Elm St and fighting to open your umbrella vs standing stock still and pumping your umbrella as JFK cruised by you. I don't believe this is an unreasonable expectation. I've watched his HSCA Testimony a couple of times. He seemed perfectly normal. Not a basket case or anything along those lines 15 yrs later. Witt ID'd himself as being the Umbrella Man. Nobody else has ID'd Witt as being the Umbrella Man. Nobody.
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15 years after the fact and you expect a guy to remember every detail exactly like it happened? Unbelievable.
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 21, 2026, 08:04:20 PM --- Thanks for being man enough to simply ask this question. Witt testified that he was sitting on the knoll when the JFK Limo surprised him as it came down Elm St. He jumped up and began moving straight toward Elm St as he simultaneously struggled to open his umbrella. He claimed by the time he looked up from his struggling with the umbrella, that the JFK Limo had already traveled passed by him. None of this is on the Bronson Film. The Bronson film shows Witt standing stock still with the JFK Limo not yet having reached him. Witt did positively ID himself on the photo showing Witt seated on the retaining wall with The Cuban. The Bronson film had not become public at the time of the Witt HSCA testimony. The Zapruder Film also shows the Umbrella being fully open and pumped as the JFK Limo passed by the Umbrella Man.
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The best quality version of the Bronson film is at the SFM website:
https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/bronson-film-8mm-2/
From this, by the time Bronson is filming the limo rolling down Elm, it has indeed already passed TUM, just as Witt said.
Duncan MacRae:
--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on March 22, 2026, 07:18:53 AM ---The best quality version of the Bronson film is at the SFM website:
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Here It Is Thumb1:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oLUAeeSlc8
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