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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2026, 09:08:31 PM »
You glom onto James' "Shadow DNA", and then ask the question above?

Dear Royell,

You seem to be hung up on James' "DNA" metaphor.

What's yours, by the way?

Russian?

-- Tom

Offline Jake Maxwell

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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2026, 01:47:12 AM »


The FBI report (Nov. 23, 1963) summarizing the statement of Abraham Zapruder:

“He stated that he heard a noise which he thought was a firecracker and then heard a second and third report. He stated that it appeared to him that the shots came from behind him.”





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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2026, 01:52:03 AM »
Based upon your photographs, I believe this makes the 23rd shooter in DP.

Online John Corbett

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2026, 11:16:09 AM »
Based upon your photographs, I believe this makes the 23rd shooter in DP.

Other people in DP thought the shots came from the direction of the TSBD, including JBC and two of the agents in the follow up car who can be seen looking  to the rear in the direction of the TSBD. Some of the people in DP were right and some of them were wrong about where they shots came from. Which group is corroborated by the finding of spent shells and a rifle found where they thought the shots came from. Which group is corroborated by an eyewitness who saw a gunman where they thought the shots came from. Which group has no corroboration for their impression of where the shots came from.

Online Royell Storing

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2026, 01:52:28 PM »
Other people in DP thought the shots came from the direction of the TSBD, including JBC and two of the agents in the follow up car who can be seen looking  to the rear in the direction of the TSBD. Some of the people in DP were right and some of them were wrong about where they shots came from. Which group is corroborated by the finding of spent shells and a rifle found where they thought the shots came from. Which group is corroborated by an eyewitness who saw a gunman where they thought the shots came from. Which group has no corroboration for their impression of where the shots came from.

   "The DIRECTION of the TSBD...." takes in a lot of territory. This description would include: (1) in front of, (2) to the sides, and (3) behind the TSBD. You guys continually treat this very general description like it pinpoints the TSBD. It does Not. 

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2026, 05:03:21 PM »
   "The DIRECTION of the TSBD...." takes in a lot of territory. This description would include: (1) in front of, (2) to the sides, and (3) behind the TSBD. You guys continually treat this very general description like it pinpoints the TSBD. It does Not.

Only a fool thinks sound is a reliable way of determining where a gunshot was fired from. If it were reliable, there would be a consensus. But there is no consensus. My reason for bringing up those who thought the shots came from the direction of the TSBD was to show there was no such consensus. The forensic evidence and an EYEwitness tell us where the shots were fired from. Conspiracy hobbyists don't want to believe that all the shots were fired from the TSBD but since they have no credible evidence of shots from any other locations, they turn to unreliable forms of evidence, like the impressions of earwitnesses.

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2026, 05:35:00 PM »
Only a fool thinks sound is a reliable way of determining where a gunshot was fired from. If it were reliable, there would be a consensus. But there is no consensus. My reason for bringing up those who thought the shots came from the direction of the TSBD was to show there was no such consensus. The forensic evidence and an EYEwitness tell us where the shots were fired from. Conspiracy hobbyists don't want to believe that all the shots were fired from the TSBD but since they have no credible evidence of shots from any other locations, they turn to unreliable forms of evidence, like the impressions of earwitnesses.

   For starters, how about you tone down the "fool" stuff?
   I believe you lean on the 3 hulls far too much. The claim being that 3 hulls = 3 shots. But the fly in that ointment is that the cadence of those 3 shots can Not be accomplished with a bolt action Carcano rifle. An issue that You never mention. We have Umbrella Man/Witt and an adult Amos Euins both on film tapping out the 3 shot cadence. "Pow....Pow/Pow"!