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Dr. William Niederhut:
Ben Cole was notorious on the Education Forum for insisting that Donald Trump's January 6th mob attack
on Congress was, in reality, a Deep State plot against Donald Trump. So much for Ben's acumen.
And Ben never studied, or understood, the scientific data about 9/11, or the 21st century history of PNAC.
Ben is not a scientist.
Here is one, simple question for Ben Cole, Bill Brown, Mytton, Graves, et.al. here.
Answer the question, please.
What liquefied the steel that was "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero?
The molten steel cascades are visible on film, and were documented by NYFD firefighters.
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Benjamin Cole:
Obsessively jibber-jabbering about Mossad and the 9.11 bombing is Dr. Bill's strong suit. Nutterhut, aka "The Quack," can go on for years, and then decades, and has, with his peevish dementia. The (dis)Education Forum became a Dr. Bill platform for his crackpot 9.11 narratives, much to the dismay of the few remaining sane participants.
And the feculent, flatulent Dr. Bill will compulsively pollute this forum too. So it goes. I promise you, he will repeat his screwball narratives on 9.11 ad infinitum.
Dr Bill, aka The Quack, Moderator of the (dis)Education Forum:
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Dr. William Niederhut on March 24, 2026, 05:45:59 PM --- Ben Cole was notorious on the Education Forum for insisting that Donald Trump's January 6th mob attack
on Congress was, in reality, a Deep State plot against Donald Trump. So much for Ben's acumen.
And Ben never studied, or understood, the scientific data about 9/11, or the 21st century history of PNAC.
Ben is not a scientist.
Here is one, simple question for Ben Cole, Bill Brown, Mytton, Graves, et.al. here.
Answer the question, please.
What liquefied the steel that was "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero?
The molten steel cascades are visible on film, and were documented by NYFD firefighters.
.
.
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--- Quote ---And Ben never studied, or understood, the scientific data about 9/11....
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And what scientific understanding have you demonstrated, besides (some unknown unproven "molten steel=bad")? You're clearly bluffing your way through this and let's be honest, you couldn't "science" your way out of a wet paper bag!
--- Quote ---The molten steel cascades are visible on film
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This old chestnut, there is burning debris seen cascading from WTC7 close to ten minutes before the collapse, this debris could be anything and being so long before the actual collapse adds much more credibility that this burning debris was totally unrelated to any pre-planted explosives.
And wisely you still haven't told us what you believe caused your "molten steel" because if it is indeed "thermite" then that opens a whole can of worms. Previously you have claimed that the visible high velocity expulsions that we see as the building collapses is a common sight seen in "controlled demolitions" which you imply can only be caused by explosives, or perhaps you simply don't understand that the collapsing floors violently caused the remaining air to be forced from the building!
But anyway it's obvious that you are just throwing crap at a wall and hoping something sticks, was it quickly detonating high explosives or relatively slow burning "thermite" which doesn't explode with anywhere near the intensity of explosives but merely melts through various metals.
Explosions or merely escaping air!
And inquiring minds would like to know how do you apply "thermite" to vertical beams, because after the reaction starts the remaining reactants are controlled by gravity??
"Thermite" is only practical being applied to a horizontal steel surface and I don't believe that "thermite" has ever been used in a controlled demolition, because precise pinpoint explosions are required and not the unpredictable timing of "thermite"
--- Quote ---What liquefied the steel that was "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero?
The molten steel cascades are visible on film, and were documented by NYFD firefighters.
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I would sure like to see some photographic evidence of steel "flowing like a foundry" at Ground Zero or the resulting pools of molten steel or even the cooled off slabs of melted steel? Exactly what was this documentation, are we to rely on non specialist witnesses who didn't chemically analyse this "steel" or even photograph this other worldly phenomenon?
Where was this molten material flowing, from where to where, was new molten material being produced supposedly weeks or even months after the brief "thermite" reactions on 9/11
After an extensive search, there isn't much visual evidence, the following images seem to be the only "proof" of molten steel but did they even come from Ground Zero and how do you pick up molten steel with a grappler? And as seen above in the telegraph post fire there is many possibilities before assuming "molten steel"
Embers from hot debris can look a lot like the unanalysed substances seen at Ground Zero.
And finally, as I previously stated, there was NO need to demolish the buildings, the planes
attacking and crashing into the two most symbolic buildings of wealth and power in America was objective completed, and these building on fire and smoking for weeks after would have been much more visually terrifying than a pile of rubble. The risk of being caught planting and detonating tonnes of explosives was incredibly high and added zero extra value, demolishing the massively damaged buildings in which thousands of people lost their lives would have no pushback.
It's like the JFK assassination, CT's with too much time on their hands invent ridiculous scenarios to further their insane accusations and the prime example is why would conspirators risk everything by having a frontal shooter when your "lone" patsy was high and behind? Ridiculous!
JohnM
John Mytton:
Finding 9/11 photos of the molten steel from Ground Zero has so far proven to be worthless, on some 9/11 truth site I found the following photo of an extraction of some type of heated up metal which is still far from being molten. And as seen in the bottom photo, achieving a similar look to this heated up metal has been accomplished over a fire, a situation replicated within the fiery WTC rubble, and let's not forget that hundreds of years before 9/11 this technique to shape metal was utilized without "thermite".
JohnM
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Dr. William Niederhut on March 24, 2026, 05:45:59 PM ---Ben Cole was notorious on the Education Forum for insisting that Donald Trump's January 6th mob attack on Congress was, in reality, a Deep State plot against Donald Trump.
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Dear Dr. Bill,
If true, then Ben's just as wrong as you and the other "useful idiots" at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum who preach that a different kind "Deep State" (the evil, evil "Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex") killed JFK.
-- Tom
PS "Useful idiots" -- it's an old KGB expression.
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