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What do we see to the left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
Charles Collins:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on February 26, 2026, 03:39:10 PM ---Does this photo help at all?
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Yes Steve, thanks! For people who are able to think in terms of 3D space when viewing a 2D image, it should be apparent that if the camera were to be positioned over to the camera right and closer to the angles of the Weigman and Darnell films, such that the traffic light pole and the streetlight pole are lined up with each other, that the front right wheel of the car would appear to be to the right of those poles. I think most any photos that show this vehicle would help.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on February 26, 2026, 03:39:10 PM ---Does this photo help at all?
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Steve - Thanks for posting this photo. The car we see on the Bottom (L), parked on the TSBD side of the Elm St Extension, is the same car that is mistakenly being cited as a car parked alongside the Island. And this includes the (L) rear tail light of this same car being mistakenly "bulls-eye'd" as being attached to a car parked alongside the Island. This photo, along with the National Geographic "Manhunt" film footage showing this same car from the rear, makes clear what we are seeing on the Wiegman Film. We are seeing a parked car on the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext.
Steve Barber:
--- Quote from: Charles Collins on February 26, 2026, 04:44:30 PM ---
Yes Steve, thanks! For people who are able to think in terms of 3D space when viewing a 2D image, it should be apparent that if the camera were to be positioned over to the camera right and closer to the angles of the Weigman and Darnell films, such that the traffic light pole and the streetlight pole are lined up with each other, that the front right wheel of the car would appear to be to the right of those poles. I think most any photos that show this vehicle would help.
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You're welcome, Charles. Glad I could add some help.
So, the car in the photo (which I have added a red arrow pointing to) is the car in question, and Royell is stating that it is parked against the northernmost curb directly in front of the TSBD-not against the curb that forms the peninsula where the traffic light, lamp post, and highway signs are situated?
Steve Barber:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on February 26, 2026, 05:10:04 PM --- Steve - Thanks for posting this photo. The car we see on the Bottom (L), parked on the TSBD side of the Elm St Extension, is the same car that is mistakenly being cited as a car parked alongside the Island. And this includes the (L) rear tail light of this same car being mistakenly "bulls-eye'd" as being attached to a car parked alongside the Island. This photo, along with the National Geographic "Manhunt" film footage showing this same car from the rear, makes clear what we are seeing on the Wiegman Film. We are seeing a parked car on the TSBD side of the Elm St Ext.
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So, the car in the photo (which I have added a red arrow pointing to) is the car in question, and you're stating that it is parked against the northernmost curb directly in front of the TSBD-not against the curb that forms the peninsula where the traffic light, lamp post, and highway signs are situated? Is this correct?
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on February 26, 2026, 03:39:10 PM ---Does this photo help at all?
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Well, that's definitely the "Abandoned Getaway Car," a 1958 Pontiac Bonneville.
Whoever took this photo was standing a bit farther to the left than Wiegman was sitting in his camera car at the 1:46 mark of his film as presented frame-by-frame, below.
Question: Is the white car in the background the same car that can be said to visually "merge" with rear half or so of the "Abandoned Getaway Car" at that 1:46 mark in the Wiegman film and in the frames near it?
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3xR0WBPo8I
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