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What do we see to the left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
Charles Collins:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on February 27, 2026, 01:19:59 AM ---That's what I thought and figured.
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Seriously, I worded it that way on purpose even though I know it isn’t exactly proper. Most of the time I use an iPad which has a relatively small touchscreen. That doesn’t lend itself to very precise measurements or graphics. Also, most of the time I am only trying to demonstrate a concept without being precise. So if anyone wants to nitpick the details I usually have already pointed out the less than precise nature.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Charles Collins on February 27, 2026, 01:59:23 AM ---
Seriously, I worded it that way on purpose even though I know it isn’t exactly proper. Most of the time I use an iPad which has a relatively small touchscreen. That doesn’t lend itself to very precise measurements or graphics. Also, most of the time I am only trying to demonstrate a concept without being precise. So, if anyone wants to nitpick the details, I usually have already pointed out the less than precise nature.
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"Roughly" and "about" are synonyms, therefore "roughly about" . . . is . . . uhh . . . redundant.
But I shouldn't be so hard on you, Charles, because at least you did NOT say, "roughly about approximately," bless your little old pea-pickin' heart!
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Charles Collins on February 26, 2026, 11:29:30 PM ---
There is roughly about 24-feet of island surface visible between fedora man and purse woman. There is roughly about 24-feet of island surface visible between the island’s Elm Street curb and the island’s Elm Street Extension curb on Weigman’s line of sight that runs between fedora man and purse lady.”
The line of sight is at such an angle that I will show a rough idea in the following images.
The image below shows the line of sight with fedora man inline with the gated opening behind him. The black arrows are meant to show the space between the island’s Elm Street Curb and the island’s Elm Street Extension curb at this line of sight.
The images below are from the Roberdeau map. The first one shows the (red) line of sight with (red) cross hatches indicating the two curbs referenced above. The (black arrows) distance between the two curbs is roughly 24-feet at this specific line of sight.
The image below is the scale of the map that I used to approximate the distance.
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As long as you continue to rely on that Lego Man visual aid, you will continue to be lost. That thing is a joke/wrong. For starters, Fedora Man is standing much closer to the Traffic Signal Pole.
Go to YOU TUBE and search -
"Four Days in November" (1964) - David L. Wolper JFK Assassination Documentary by - LionHeart FilmWorks
39:58 - 40:05 Gives a very good overhead view of that corner. Fedora Man was standing very close to where you see that man standing near the corner.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Charles Collins on February 26, 2026, 09:53:31 PM ---
Frankly, I got in an hurry adding the sketched yellow line to James Hackerott’s image and inadvertently shortchanged the eastern most part of the “hook” of the island by 2 or 3 feet. It actually extends a little further east than my sketch shows which was already described as “rough outline”. Here’s the shortchanged sketch again and two images from Wiegman’s film one with and one without the added yellow outline.
As we can see in the above two Weigman film images, the actual easternmost point of the island “hook” lines up with the second brick column east of the gated opening. I was not far enough east with my initial rough sketch.
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As you can see in the Wiegman still frame above, Fedora Man is standing very close to the Traffic Signal Pole. That Lego Man position is Wrong, and therefore so is the measured footage behind him.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on February 27, 2026, 04:39:08 AM ---As you can see in the Wiegman still frame, above, Fedora Man is standing very close to the Traffic Signal Pole. That Lego Man position is Wrong, and therefore so is the measured footage behind him.
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You're wrong, Sonderführer Storing.
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