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What do we see to the left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
Tom Graves:
What do we see behind-and-to-the-immediate left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
1) Only Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car" parked next to the "Island," or
2) A combination of the rear part of Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car" parked next to the "Island" and another light-colored car behind it on the other side of Elm Street Extension, or
3) Just some rando car other than Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car," or
4) [fill in the blank]?
James Hackerott:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on February 25, 2026, 04:36:09 AM ---What do we see behind-and-to-the-immediate left of "Fedora Man on the Island" in the Wiegman clip?
1) Only Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car" parked next to the "Island," or
2) A combination of the rear part of Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car" parked next to the "Island" and another light-colored car behind it on the other side of Elm Street Extension, or
3) Just some rando car other than Sonderführer Storing's 1958 Pontiac Bonneville "Abandoned Getaway Car," or
4) [fill in the blank]?
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Number 1. The GAP shows shadow from the nearby Live Oak. It appears below the front starboard passenger window.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: James Hackerott on February 25, 2026, 08:47:49 PM ---Number 1. The GAP shows shadow from the nearby Live Oak. It appears below the front starboard passenger window.
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James - I understand the limitations you are operating under with respect to the above visual aid. Still, the traffic signal and that Wishbone Signage are NOT In Line with each other. And, ALL of those women are Not standing atop the Island. Some of those women were standing in the street. You have the curb stretching way too far out into Elm St.
Charles Collins:
In the Darnell clip, taken at a very similar angle and only seconds later, it appears that a police officer runs down the middle of the Elm Street Extension. Here are a couple of frames that seem to me to show that officer (blue arrow) is in front of the roofline (yellow arrow) of a car parked on the TSBD side of the street. As seems to be typical of these exercises there is a fly in the ointment (lady in light colored scarf) muddying up the view. But I think these two frames might show what I am submitting.
I believe that if James’ image were to be the case (the roofline we see is on a car on the island side of the Elm Street Extension) then the police officer would be partially hidden behind that roofline.
If anyone can do better with the Darnell clip frames, please do and show us the results.
Steve Barber:
Does this photo help at all?
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