Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 08:21:33 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Rhetorical questions:

In "The Lost Bullet," did Max Holland have the Oswald stand-in sit on a box while firing any of his three shots at JFK?

Am I somehow obligated to aid you in your tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory?


If Oswald had fired his first shot later than he actually did and been sitting on a box while doing so, he would have hit his target.

But he missed everything because he was semi-crouching and awkwardly leaning forward for the sharply-downward-angled shot.

Btw, did you know that Brian Roselle found in the Secret Service's reenactment film -- which was filmed four days after the assassination -- an apparent divot in the asphalt at the closest point to JFK that a missing-everything shot fired at hypothetical "Z-124" could have caused?

-- Tom

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 08:32:18 PM »
Whatever the issue is, I tell you everything that I know. A discussion then ensues.  You? You wanna play games with half truths, rhetorical questions, and riddles. You're wasting my time.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

At what point did you become a supporter of The Treasonous Orange Bird (rhymes with "xxxx") and his ilk -- before or after you became a Vladimir Putin-approved CIA-hating, FBI-hating, Secret-Service-hating and Cop-hating Tinfoil Hat JFKA Conspiracy Theorist?

-- Tom
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Thanks for your cordial inquiry.

My layman's view of the Z-film is Gov. JBC shot at ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295.

This sequence also lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence attested to by many witnesses (Kellerman shots came in a "flurry" or "on top of each other,' and many others).

There is also the observable and indisputable fact that JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after JFK is apparently shot in the back ~Z-220.

Under SBT, that means, after having been shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and the slug burrowed into his leg...only then JBC makes 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

And that JBC only imagined he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him in the back. Although he is indisputably seen being pushed forward ~Z-295.

The smoke-and-bang show on the GK is another interesting apparition, seen and heard by many. It may have been a diversion.

All that said, I suspect the JFKA was the work of a very small group, possibly Alpha 66 Dallas residents, and included LHO, or G2 assets. Those same residents may have worked with LHO on the Walker shooting attempt or intentional miss.

The Warren Commission was not interested in following leads, either into G2 and KGB, or into CIA assets in the US. G2 also also penetrated CIA Cuban assets in the US.

The LN narrative was settled on rather soon, and the FBI carried out most investigative work.

There were two guys in the State Department whose careers were ended as they wanted to follow up G2 leads, including the US Ambassador to Mexico.

But if the JFKA conspiracy involved more than three or four people, I would be surprised.

LHO, another gunsel behind JFK, and the GK diversion guy.

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Thanks for your cordial inquiry.

My layman's view of the Z-film is Gov. JBC shot at ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295.

This sequence also lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence attested to by many witnesses (Kellerman shots came in a "flurry" or "on top of each other,' and many others).

There is also the observable and indisputable fact that JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after JFK is apparently shot in the back ~Z-220.

Under SBT, that means, after having been shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and the slug burrowed into his leg...only then JBC makes 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK.

And that JBC only imagined he was pushed forward by the slug that struck him in the back. Although he is indisputably seen being pushed forward ~Z-295.

The smoke-and-bang show on the GK is another interesting apparition, seen and heard by many. It may have been a diversion.

All that said, I suspect the JFKA was the work of a very small group, possibly Alpha 66 Dallas residents, and included LHO, or G2 assets. Those same residents may have worked with LHO on the Walker shooting attempt or intentional miss.

The Warren Commission was not interested in following leads, either into G2 and KGB, or into CIA assets in the US. G2 also also penetrated CIA Cuban assets in the US.

The LN narrative was settled on rather soon, and the FBI carried out most investigative work.

There were two guys in the State Department whose careers were ended as they wanted to follow up G2 leads, including the US Ambassador to Mexico.

But if the JFKA conspiracy involved more than three or four people, I would be surprised.

LHO, another gunsel behind JFK, and the GK diversion guy.

Dear "BC,"

Please show us Connally's being "doubled over" by a shot, any shot, before Nellie pulled him down into her lap.

I'm really looking forward to this.

-- "TG"
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That's my take on ~Z-295.

BC

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That's my take on ~Z-295.

BC

Dear "BC,"

Z-295 isn't worthy of a "take."

Once again, I beseech you:

Please show us Connally's being "doubled over" by a shot, any shot, before Nellie pulled him down into her lap.

-- "TG"
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Once again, that is my take on ~Z-295. Lines up with JBC's testimony too.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

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Once again, that is my take on ~Z-295. Lines up with JBC's testimony too.

Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

Dear "BC,"

How accurate do you think most people are when trying to recount how they and someone near them were seriously wounded by the second of three unexpected shots at five-second intervals, and what they did before they lost consciousness?

Connally was "all wet" but, charismatic politician that he was, sounded oh-so convincing!

The only thing he got right was that he wasn't struck by Oswald's first shot.

LOL!

-- "TG"
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