Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2026, 05:21:48 PM »

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Do try to get your facts straight, won't you?

Holland says:

1) Oswald was standing in a semicrouch and awkwardly leaning forward for his first, missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-107," 1.5 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.

2) Oswald did not sit on a box while firing shots 2 and 3 but knelt behind the stack of boxes at the window.

3) Oswald took 11.25 seconds to fire all three shots and therefore had plenty of time to "reacquire his target" after kneeling down.

I think Holland is correct in saying the first shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming, but I believe Oswald fired it a little bit later, at hypothetical "Z-124," instead, as indicated by Roselle's and Scearce's 2020 study on the voluntary / conscious reaction times of seven prime witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, JBC, and Nellie) to the unexpected sounds of the first shot.

Do try to get your facts straight in the future, won't you, Sonderführer Storing?

-- Tom

      Do yourself a favor and watch Holland's "The Lost Bullet" National Geographic presentation. This will give you a detailed visual aid with respect to Holland's theory. 
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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2026, 10:49:20 PM »
Do yourself a favor and watch Holland's "The Lost Bullet" National Geographic presentation. This will give you a detailed visual aid with respect to Holland's theory.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

I already have, about five times.

Holland doesn't have former Marine sharpshooter Oswald standing straight up while firing his first, missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-107," and he doesn't have him sitting on a box while firing shots two and three.

D'oh!

Do try to get your facts straight in the future, won't you, Sonderführer Storing?

-- Tom

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 04:09:14 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

I already have, about five times.

Holland doesn't have former Marine sharpshooter Oswald standing straight up while firing his first, missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-107," and he doesn't have him sitting on a box while firing shots two and three.

D'oh!

Do try to get your facts straight in the future, won't you, Sonderführer Storing?

-- Tom

   So you wanna horse around with the sharp shooter dodge? What about the SS Agent Howlett that Max is wheeling around and even has him on the lift eyeballing the signal light support beam with him? That agent physically details the shooter standing/sitting position as well as the box he sat on leaving print(s). I don't mind helping you, but if you are going to try and get slippery with me, well, that goes to character. I don't have the time to mess around with anyone lacking in character. I search for the Whole Truth.

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 06:07:18 PM »
   So you wanna horse around with the sharp shooter dodge? What about the SS Agent Howlett that Max is wheeling around and even has him on the lift eyeballing the signal light support beam with him? That agent physically details the shooter standing/sitting position as well as the box he sat on leaving print(s). I don't mind helping you, but if you are going to try and get slippery with me, well, that goes to character. I don't have the time to mess around with anyone lacking in character. I search for the Whole Truth.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

That box was too far from the window for Oswald to sit on while firing his second (at approx. Z-222) and third (Z-313) shots.

He sat on it while waiting for the motorcade to appear on Houston Street.

The person wearing the white shirt (t-shirt?) in that window in the digitally enhanced Hughes film was standing as the limo was turning onto Elm Street.

Oswald was wearing a white t-shirt that day under his long-sleeved brownish-reddish shirt. He probably took that long-sleeved shirt off while he was killing JFK and used it to wipe his prints off the Carcano.

Oswald's missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-124," half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, was sufficiently downward angled as to require him to awkwardly semi-crouch and lean forward while firing it.

Stop conflating, if you possibly can, that shot with Max Holland's theorized shot a full second earlier at hypothetical "Z-107."

-- Tom
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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 06:31:18 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

That box was too far from the window for Oswald to sit on while firing his second (at approx. Z-222) and third (Z-313) shots.

He sat on it while waiting for the motorcade to appear on Houston Street.

The person wearing the white shirt (t-shirt?) in that window in the digitally enhanced Hughes film was standing as the limo was turning onto Elm Street.

Oswald was wearing a white t-shirt that day under his long-sleeved brownish-reddish shirt. He probably took that long-sleeved shirt off while he was killing JFK and used it to wipe his prints off the Carcano.

Oswald's missing-everything shot at hypothetical "Z-124," half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133, was sufficiently downward angled as to require him to awkwardly semi-crouch and lean forward while firing it.

Stop conflating that shot with Max Holland's theorized shot a full second earlier at hypothetical "Z-107."

-- Tom

  You need to watch "The Lost Bullet" for a 6th time. You've forgotten all about SA Howlett's soup-to-nuts demonstration of the 3 shots. Get yourself a small journal and make JFK Assassination Notations. You have a serious retention issue.

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« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 06:52:02 PM »
You need to watch "The Lost Bullet" for a 6th time. You've forgotten all about SA Howlett's soup-to-nuts demonstration of the 3 shots. Get yourself a small journal and make JFK Assassination Notations. You have a serious retention issue.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Who's to say John Joe was correct?

-- Tom

PS You have a serious gaslighting issue.

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 07:04:06 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Who's to say John Joe was correct?

-- Tom

PS You have a serious gaslighting issue.

  Challenging SA Howlett is fair game. "Forgetting" all about him is an issue.

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 07:47:39 PM »
Challenging SA Howlett is fair game. "Forgetting" all about him is an issue.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Rhetorical question # 1: In "The Lost Bullet," did Max Holland have the Oswald stand-in sit on a box while firing any of his three shots at JFK?

Rhetorical question # 2: Am I somehow obligated to aid you in your tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory?


If Oswald had fired his first shot later than he actually did and been sitting on a box while doing so, he would have hit his target.

But he missed everything because he was semi-crouching and awkwardly leaning forward for the sharply-downward-angled shot.


By the way, did you know that Brian Roselle found in the Secret Service's reenactment film -- which was filmed four days after the assassination -- an apparent divot in the asphalt at the closest point to JFK that a missing-everything shot fired at hypothetical "Z-124" could have caused, and that in photos taken of the limo at Parkland Hospital he found a mark on that side of the limo that wasn't there earlier in the day and, therefore, may have been caused by a chunk of asphalt kicked up by the bullet?

-- Tom

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