Why was Nosenko so desperate to tell us the KGB had nothing to do with LHO?

[Tom Graves]

KGB Major Lt. Col. Captain Yuri Nosenko (who didn't know how to send a cable, didn't know how many floors of the Embassy were dedicated to the CIA (3), didn't know where the cafeteria was at KGB headquarters, and didn't know if his secretary was assigned to him or came from a pool, etc.) falsely defected-in-place to the CIA in Geneva in June 1962 to protect a mole or two or three in the CIA, and physically defected to the US in February 1964, claiming to have read Oswald's file four times in Moscow and that he therefore knew for a fact that the KGB had absolutely nothing to do with the former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator during the two-and-a-half years he half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk.

Question: Why did he feed the CIA and the FBI this implausible load of you-know-what?

Answer: Maybe because he was a rogue defector, and he used the Oswald "intel" that he was supposed to share with Tennent H. Bagley and (probable mole) George Kisevalter in Geneva as his ticket to "The Land of Milk and Honey."

But why, then, did Kremlin-loyal triple agents like Aleksei Kulak at the FBI's NYC field office support his bona fides, even having to retract statements about him that turned out to be untrue?

It's a pity that Nosenko was "cleared" by probable mole Bruce Solie in October 1968, that he got renumerated grandly "for his troubles," was naturalized as an American citizen, and that a couple of years later he was teaching "counterintelligence" to the CIA's and the FBI's new recruits.

How do you say "Gag me with a KGB spoon" in Fancy Pants Rants Speak?

[Benjamin Cole]

TG--

Valid questions. Bruce Solie wanted to, and tried to sell Nosenko's bona fides to the WC and HSCA.

And to Garrison?

Was Bruce Solie a KGB asset and running LHO?

John Newman thinks so.

[Tom Graves]

TG--

Valid questions. Bruce Solie wanted to, and tried to sell Nosenko's bona fides to the WC and HSCA.

And to Garrison?

Was Bruce Solie a KGB asset and running LHO?

John Newman thinks so.

Bruce Solie wanted to what?

It's hard to know how "Mole Solie's running of Oswald" fits into Newman's theory that some evil, evil, evil high-level Military Officers killed JFK because he refused to nuke Peking and Moscow in 1963.

Do you think it's plausible that it took Solie sixteen months to recruit Oswald and prepare him to "defect" to the USSR?

[Benjamin Cole]

TG--

One can accept that Solie was running LHO, without accepting John Newman's Grand Narrative regarding the JFKA.

I don't know what is the usual timeline for recruiting someone to send them to the SU in 1963, or if Solie often felt constrained at times, and bided his time in his scheming. 

An interesting topic is connections between LHO, KGB and G2, and Bruce Solie.

Does that prove a conspiracy? No.

Could G2 guys have manipulated LHO, who had a propensity to shoot at major public figures (see Walker), into taking a role in the JFKA.

Maaaaaaayyyyyybbbbbbbeeeeee...........

[Tom Graves]

I don't know what the usual timeline for recruiting someone and sending them to the USSR in 1963 was [sic; Oswald arrived in Moscow in October 1959], or if Solie felt constrained and therefore bided his time in his scheming.  (paraphrased by T.G.)

In Newman's theory, "Popov's U-2 Mole" Solie found out from (probable mole, imho) George Kisevalter in April 1958 that Popov had told him in Berlin that he had overheard a drunken GRU colonel boast at a New Years Eve party that the Kremlin had all of the top-secret specifications of the U-2 spy plane (this is verified by former high-level CIA officer William Hood in his book, "Mole," in which Kisevalter is referred to as "Gregory Domnin").

In this scenario, one would think that Solie would want to deflect any upcoming investigation into the leak away from his (ironically, mole-hunting) Security Research Staff in the Office of Security and therefore wouldn't dawdle for sixteen or seventeen months, making sure that the false defector he was sending to Moscow -- to toss his passport on Consul Richard Snyder's desk and announce to the microphones in the walls that he was planning on telling the Soviets "something of special interest" -- could speak Russian.

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

For me, the interesting angle is that there were KGB assets in the CIA, and one of them, Bruce Solie, was somehow manipulating LHO.

Maybe Newman has flubbed certain parts of his narrative on Solie.

But, on the Big Stuff--is Newman right, Solie was a KGB asset?

This chimes with Victor Marchetti's observation that the CIA was so riddled with KGB assets he was not sure who was running what.

Tennent Bagley was open to the idea Solie was a KGB asset.

After reading Solie's presentation to the HSCA, so am I.

[Tom Graves]

On the Big Stuff -- is Newman right, Solie was a KGB asset?

I believe so, so the question in my mind now becomes, "Was Solie not only protecting himself, but arranging for Oswald to be trained as a KGB assassin?"