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When the LN Narrative Ruled--And Snuffed Out Leads Into Cuba?
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on January 27, 2026, 02:11:33 AM ---LP--
Hancock is still on the UFO beat, doing more recent work. I am a non-UFO'er. (Fermi paradox. Also, nothing travels faster than the speed of light, and even that is too slow).
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That is sooo 1955 Buck Rogers thinking, dude. :D There are simply way too many highly credible sightings and experiences for "ET craft" to be the explanation unless Earth is somehow the Disneyland of the universe. Explanations that are entertained more seriously these days include: (1) an interdimensional phenomenon; (2) an unltraterrestrial phenomenon; (3) a spiritual phenomenon; (4) a psychological phenomenon (meaning an interaction between ourselves and our environment); (5) a staged phenomenon; (6) a time-traveling phenomenon. All of these have their serious, non-wacky proponents (as well, of course, as their lunatic fringes). I lean toward #5 - i.e., this is an interaction with a non-human intelligence, but it is presenting itself in the way that it wants us to perceive it (possibly right up to staged "crashes"). The dean of brilliant, serious ufologists, Jacques Vallee, suggested long ago that the phenomenon is a "control system," manipulating our thinking and possibly our intellectual/spiritual evolution, in ways and for purposes we may never grasp.
This is why I can only roll my eyes and giggle at Hot Lips Luna, her committee, and the familiar cast of characters she trots out. They are almost surely on exactly the wrong track - which may be precisely what the phenomenon intends. Someone like Larry Hancock is about as likely to crack the UFO nut as Bernie Sanders (maybe less!).
This is why Roswell is so fascinating. There is a vast body of evidence, including testimony by extremely high-level military officials, that something extremely non-mundane occurred. The mundane explanations have simply not withstood scrutiny. There is also an incredible cast of tellers of tall tales that exactly parallels the JFKA, as well as the cultists, True Believers and nonsense-peddlers of all stripes that likewise haunt the JFKA. I lean definitely toward "non-mundane," but then I apply the same 30,000-foot logic I apply to JFKA conspiracy theories: What is the likelihood that an ET craft traverses millions or billions of miles of interstellar space and crashes in a New Mexico thunderstorm like a 1947 Piper Cub? Rather small, it seems to me - and then you have to multiply this by at least 25 other supposed crashes. Hence, I lean toward "non-mundane" but "staged" and probably not at all what it appeared to be.
In regard to my only little UFO encounter, in the company of an arch-skeptic on a lonely Nevada highway, I cannot help but be struck by the facts that (1) although we did not speak for perhaps 30 seconds, we both INSTANTLY recognized that this small "craft" was something weird and disturbing, not some funky plane or military technology; (2) although we both retained a vivid memory (and it's still perhaps my most vivid memory), we were somehow "programmed" not to speak of it again, between ourselves or to anyone else, for many years; and (3) despite my vivid, down-to-the-nanosecond memory, the ONE thing I cannot recall clearly is the "craft" itself, which was perhaps no more than 50-75 yards away. Weird, at least to me.
Regarding old Fermi, one of my favorite mental exercises is to attempt to comprehend at some level the sheer size of the universe and the numbers involved, whether in terms of light-year distances or numbers of galaxies or whatever. Forget about - instant headache. You may know, but as recently as 1920 there was a Serious Debate between Serious Scholars as to whether our piddly Milky Way was, in fact, the Entire Universe. Uh, no. :D :D :D
Benjamin Cole:
LP--
OK.
There was a time when many people would say they saw a UFO, but did not have a camera handy. That actually made sense, and gave some credulity to some UFO sightings.
Now, there are cameras everywhere all the time...and still no verifiable optical images of UFOs.
Some people tout blurry infrared or other types of imagery as being UFOs, but who knows if such images can be fabricated by bored technicians.
The UFO-ologists are still talking about a Navy pilot who thought he saw tic-tac-like UFOs hovering over the sea outside San Diego. But no images were taken. This is weak.
It would be nice if some ordinary optical images, shot from multiple angles, of an obvious UFO would emerge. Non-fake stuff, in any words.
As for traveling faster than the speed of light---let me know when it happens. I hope it does.
The aliens can travel across the universe...and crash on Planet Earth? Really?
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