Myths and Errors in ABC's "Truth and Lies" Documentary

[Zeon Mason]

Mr.Griffith, thanks for staying around on this forum and taking all the flak from LN diehards. For 25  years I have questioned the WC conclusion that Oswald was the only gunman and that he acted alone without any other persons having influenced him.

Although I have concluded that the WC theory is possible I have not seen any conclusive reenactment using an MC rifle in the same condition as the one found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20 pm by Boone and Weitzman.

I’ve seen attempts by shooters with newer better quality MC rifles with fully functional and better quality scopes that don’t drift or lose their zero after the 1st shot.

I’ve seen the CBS shooting trial which is a poorly done experiment which essentially “cheats” by allowing the shooters to know in advance exactly how the target will travel along a white rail and the target itself is a composite RED silhouette  figure stuck on a larger black square. The shooters were allowed to be already in position to aim at the target BEFORE it begins to move. There was no tree in the way. There was no requirement to use the stacked boxes as a firing platform. There was no attempt to have the shooter first sitting on a box and then lean over to rest the rifle on the 2 boxes just before beginning to aim and track the moving target.

I’ve seen the 2003 Beyond Conspiracy documentary that Peter Jennings hosted and I’ve found so many errors in that documentary that I’ve concluded it was an intentional fraud.

For me, there are just too many suspicious people interacting with Oswald, such as George Demorhenshield, Jack Ruby. Guy Bannister, and Alpha 66 members who just coincidentally are in a photo with Oswald.

Then as Mr Griffith keeps reminding us, the evidence itself is very suspect and I see no way to reconcile these discrepancies.

Most disturbingly is the  incompetence of Will Fritz ( or was it purposeful obfuscation?) in handling Oswald and failing to  make  a satisfactory recording of interviewing Oswald.

So I remain a Skeptic especially since new evidence seems to keep emerging such as the recording of LBJs advisor talking with Billy Sol Estes.

[Benjamin Cole]

Are there photos of Alpha 66 members and LHO together? Are you speaking figuratively?

I think there is a possibility of a couple of guys, possibly Alpha 66'ers, somehow hoodwinking or cooperating with LHO in the JFKA. One was the GK smoke-and-bang show, and the other was a second shooter behind JFK.

But there is no hard evidence of this scenario. It is speculative. 

In general, I suspect a very small JFKA plot (three guys), which is why everything is vapors when it comes to explaining larger plots.

LHO's connections to G2 and KGB'ers have never been heavily researched, except somewhat by Gus Russo.

[Tom Graves]

One was the GK smoke-and-bang show, and the other was a second shooter behind JFK. But there is no hard evidence of this scenario.   

There is no evidence whatsoever.

[Michael T. Griffith]

One was the GK smoke-and-bang show, and the other was a second shooter behind JFK.

But there is no hard evidence of this scenario. It is speculative.

There is no evidence whatsoever.

There's plenty of evidence of a shooter on the grassy knoll:

-- We have photographic evidence of gun smoke hanging over one of the trees in front of the fence on the knoll (Wiegman film). That smoke could not have come from the steam pipe in the railyard; the pipe was over 100 feet away from the area where the smoke was seen.

-- Several eyewitnesses reported seeing gun smoke coming from a spot near the fence on the grassy knoll.

-- Dozens of witnesses heard shots coming from the grassy knoll.

-- A number of witnesses smelled the pungent smell of gun powder on and near the grassy knoll after the shooting.

-- There is scientific acoustical evidence, in the form of the Dallas police dictabelt recording, that a shot was fired from the grassy knoll.

Acoustical scientists Mark Weiss and Ernest Aschkenasy, who specialized in processing acoustical signals for military applications, determined that gunshot impulse 144.9 on the dictabelt came from the grassy knoll. Weiss and Aschkenasy calculated there was no more than a 5.3% probability (P=0.053) that the 144.9 impulse pattern was not caused by gunfire, and they argued that the probability was likely lower than that. This is why they reported there was a 95% probability or higher that this shot came from the grassy knoll.

In a stunning admission that has been ignored by lone-gunman theorists, the NRC/NAS/Ramsey panel acknowledged that their analysis found that the probability that the 144.9 impulse pattern was not gunfire from the knoll was 22.3% (P=0.223), which means their analysis found that the probability that the impulse pattern was caused by gunfire from the knoll was 77.7%.

Let me repeat that: Even the NRC/NAS/Ramsey panel, endlessly cited by lone-gunman theorists, said there was a 77.7% probability that the 144.9 impulse was caused by gunfire from the grassy knoll.

Moreover, former USDA research scientist Dr. Donald Thomas has proved that the NRC/NAS/Ramsey panel committed crucial errors in reaching their P=0.223 calculation, and that the probability that the 144.9 impulse pattern was caused by grassy knoll gunfire is virtually 100% (https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Acoustics_Overview_and_History_-_part_2.html).

BTW, the NRC/NAS/Ramsey panel also admitted there was a 93% probability that the locational-movement correlations identified by the BBN acoustical experts between the DPD dictabelt impulses and the impulses from Dallas test firing were not the result of chance. The BBN scientists determined that the probability that chance caused these correlations was “less than 1%.”

-- Two witnesses saw a man running into the railyard from the fence on the knoll right after the shooting.

-- DPD Chief Jesse Curry's first reaction to the shooting, seconds after it happened, was to order officers to go to the area of the triple underpass, which was right next to the grassy knoll.

-- Dozens of the people in the plaza rushed toward the grassy knoll after the shots were fired.

[Lance Payette]

No one will believe me, but this is completely true: Last night, I actually had my first-ever JFKA-related dream. Oswald, JFK and Dealey Plaza weren't in it. I wasn't even in it. I was just the audience. Some guy was engaged in a comical effort to frame a bizarre cast of characters for the JFKA. When I awoke at 2 AM and could actually remember some of the details, I was laughing at the sheer cleverness. It then occurred to me: Wouldn't that make a great counterpart to "JFK" - i.e., an intensely serious black comedy portraying all the insane stuff that people like MTG believe? Instead of just talking about this nonsense, which gives it a sort of quasi-credibility, partly because you can focus on each insane claim in isolation and don't have to think about it in context, actually portray it all on the screen! Every facet of the elaborate, multi-facted conspiracy, from the grooming and framing of Oswald, to the battle scene in Dealey Plaza, to the Tippit murder, to the two autopsies, to the massive cover-up, to the mystery deaths, to ... well, you get the idea. I promise you, people would be holding their sides and rolling in the aisles. If I were younger, and Harry Dean Stanton were still around to play Oswald, I think I might actually get to work on a screenplay. In the meantime, people, just try to use your imaginations and think through what the events so seriously hypothesized by CTers like MTG would actually have looked like.

Harry Dean, RIP.