Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?

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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2025, 07:14:52 PM »
The stills and clip I have posted perfectly demonstrate the exact moment the bullet passed through both men.
Just because you find it "hard to believe" doesn't mean anything.
You provide no counter-argument or counter-evidence.
We have versions of the Z-film many times better than the shaky, blurry home movie Dan Rather based his disastrously incorrect impressions on. After a single, hurried view, he got almost everything wrong about it.
That you would take his incoherent ramblings over the actual film says it all about what you are willing to hang your hat on.

    (1) Why do you believe that Rather was viewing a Z Film copy that was "shaky, blurry, home movie..." quality?  (2) How many "...shaky, blurry, home movie..." Z Film "copies" do you believe were already floating around on the weekend of the assassination? 
   
     I would have far less respect for Rather's LIVE World Wide Z Film observations if CBS had then assigned him to Hoboken, New Jersey. Instead, his LIVE Z Film "incoherent ramblings" were rewarded with Rather being selected to replace Walter Cronkite as the CBS Anchor Man. I believe this was Rather being rewarded for his Z Film silence going forward. NBC to this day has Not released its' Original Wiegman Film. NBC to this day has Not released its' Original Darnell Film. Rather's Z Film silence going forward is right in line with this continuing "cooperation" by the "News" Media. 
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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2025, 11:50:43 PM »

Could a bullet have passed through the wrist holding the cowboy hat, and then entered his left thigh? The wrist seems too close to the right side of JBC.

How did the bullet pass through JBC's wrist from the dorsal (wristwatch side)?

At Z-227, JBC appears to holding his cowboy hat in front of himself, although the image is blurry.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

JBC and his wife both said the shot pattern was: JFK struck by the first audible shot, JBC by the second, and JFK by the third.

Something doesn't add up about the SBT.
The SBT was concocted by Arlen Specter to explain where the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck went. No one considered the possibility that Connally was struck by two separate bullets, although some members of the WC (McCloy and possibly Russell) thought that Connally could have been hit in the back and not felt it.

To see where the bullet went after passing through JFK’s midline one has to first determine when it occurred and then recreate the trajectory from the SN through JFK and see what it could have hit. It appears to have occurred between z190 and z200 and a right to left shot through JFK at that time would have gone to the left of Connally’s spine.

There is a simple explanation that vindicates the Connally’s adamant position that the SBT is wrong and is perfectly consistent with a single shooter.

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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 01:54:19 AM »
RS--

That is correct.

I didn't want to go through the whole song-and-dance, but in fact Gov. JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after Z-223, then begins to again face forward, and then is struck and pushed forward violently ~Z-295.

Exactly as he testified to the WC and HSCA.

Those who posit that JBC was shot at ~Z-223, are also positing JBC makes a 180-degree run in his seat to check on JFK---after JBC had been shot through the chest, had a section of rib expelled through a large exit wound in his chest, then had his wrist fractured and then had a bullet penetrate his thigh.

That just does seem to hold water.

In fact, the only reason I believe there was a JFKA conspiracy is the cadence of shots. A single-shot per bolt-action rifle could not strike JBC and JFK within one second.

That leads to a second gunsel. The GK smoke-and-bang show is also suspicious, and possibly a diversion.

I suspect there was a small plot to perp the JFKA, although if G2 was involved, who knows how high up it went.

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The SBT was concocted by Arlen Specter to explain where the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck went. No one considered the possibility that Connally was struck by two separate bullets, although some members of the WC (McCloy and possibly Russell) thought that Connally could have been hit in the back and not felt it.

To see where the bullet went after passing through JFK’s midline one has to first determine when it occurred and then recreate the trajectory from the SN through JFK and see what it could have hit. It appears to have occurred between z190 and z200 and a right to left shot through JFK at that time would have gone to the left of Connally’s spine.

There is a simple explanation that vindicates the Connally’s adamant position that the SBT is wrong and is perfectly consistent with a single shooter.

   The assumption You are making is that the JFK Back Wound connected to the JFK Throat Wound. We all know that Dr Humes jammed his finger into that back wound and the depth of that wound stopped at the 1st knuckle of Humes finger. This shallow back wound being the result of the bullet that SA Paul Landis has admitted to finding in the back seat of the JFK Limo at Parkland Hospital. The importance of somehow connecting those 2 wounds is why Specter handled the Q/A of Tomlinson. Tomlinson found the Magic Bullet that SA Landis placed on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. Then, Gerald Ford moved the Warren Report written description of the JFK BACK Wound up to the base of JFK's neck. Total  BS:

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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 03:14:05 AM »
RS--

That is correct.

I didn't want to go through the whole song-and-dance, but in fact Gov. JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after Z-223, then begins to again face forward, and then is struck and pushed forward violently ~Z-295.

Exactly as he testified to the WC and HSCA.

Those who posit that JBC was shot at ~Z-223, are also positing JBC makes a 180-degree run in his seat to check on JFK---after JBC had been shot through the chest, had a section of rib expelled through a large exit wound in his chest, then had his wrist fractured and then had a bullet penetrate his thigh.

That just does seem to hold water.

In fact, the only reason I believe there was a JFKA conspiracy is the cadence of shots. A single-shot per bolt-action rifle could not strike JBC and JFK within one second.

That leads to a second gunsel. The GK smoke-and-bang show is also suspicious, and possibly a diversion.

I suspect there was a small plot to perp the JFKA, although if G2 was involved, who knows how high up it went.

Those who posit that JBC was shot at ~Z-223, are also positing JBC makes a 180-degree run in his seat to check on JFK---after JBC had been shot through the chest, had a section of rib expelled through a large exit wound in his chest, then had his wrist fractured and then had a bullet penetrate his thigh.

That just does seem to hold water.


After the head shot, JBC turns away from the spray of material coming from JFK's head, so much so we can no longer see his head.
Seconds later he pops back up and appears to be looking back towards JFK.
According to your logic, this shouldn't be possible.




I didn't want to go through the whole song-and-dance, but in fact Gov. JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat after Z-223, then begins to again face forward, and then is struck and pushed forward violently ~Z-295.

Exactly as he testified to the WC and HSCA.


This part of your post is so wrong it's hard to know where to begin.
You make three 'observations':

1] JBC makes a 180-degree turn on his seat after Z-223
2] after this he "begins to again face forward".
3] After this he is " struck and pushed forward violently ~Z-295".

You then state that these observations were "exactly" as JBC testified to.
Firstly - JBC never stated that he did any of the things you claim he testified to.
Secondly - only one of your 'observations' is shown in the Z-film. After being shot JBC did turn 180 degrees in his seat and was facing JFK.
After this he 'swooned' into Nellie's lap.
He made no attempt to face forward.

But the truly bizarre claim is that JBC was "struck and pushed forward violently ~Z-295"
I have to question whether or not you've actually watched the Zapruder film.
At z295 JBC is lying in Nellie's lap. It is impossible for him to be shot in the back while in this prone position.
Furthermore, he stays in this position until after the head shot at z313!

It's hard to know what to think about such a wildly inaccurate claim concerning a fundamental piece of evidence.


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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 11:45:00 AM »
Connally: "I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood." (1 HSCA 42)

This is what JBC told the HSCA.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z302.jpg

This (above) is JBC--not yet in his wife's lap. But mouth open, appears to be in pain.

I am not sure what you are driving at.

Actually, in reviewing this again, it may be that JBC was struck even later than Z-295, but it is hard to tell. That is my best guess.

In any event, Happy New Year!

Caveat emptor, and draw your won conclusions.




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Re: Does Connally's wrist wound disprove the SBT?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 01:23:36 PM »
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John B. Connally was a handsome, smooth-talking, charismatic politician who got ahead by projecting oodles and gobs of self-confidence.

I suspect that he wasn't nearly as sure about what had happened during the 10.2 seconds it took Oswald to fire all three shots as he pretended to be.

I think he made a lot of stuff up based on his foggy recollections and those of his wife.

To use AI terminology, he "hallucinated."

Kinda like GROK on steroids.
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Connally: "I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood." (1 HSCA 42)

This is what JBC told the HSCA.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z302.jpg

This (above) is JBC--not yet in his wife's lap. But mouth open, appears to be in pain.

I am not sure what you are driving at.

Actually, in reviewing this again, it may be that JBC was struck even later than Z-295, but it is hard to tell. That is my best guess.

In any event, Happy New Year!

Caveat emptor, and draw your won conclusions.

    When looking at a high definition Z Film Copy, it strikes me how much distance, in the blinks of an eye, that Gov Connally had to cover in order to end up laying in his wife's lap. (1) The 2 Connally jump seats are on opposite sides of the Limo, and, (2) the jump seats are separated by that Hump that runs down the center of the car. What we believe we are seeing on the Z Film with respect to Nellie Connally manhandling her wounded husband into her lap, is like that story we sometimes hear about a petit mother lifting an automobile all by herself in order to free her trapped child beneath it. Yeah, MAYBE this could happen? But to date, I have only heard about feats such as this or read about these almost instantaneous/Herculian actions in a comic book or in the, "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" Sunday Funnies. When you seriously consider what you are seeing on the Z Film and then apply your own real life experiences, (instantaneous timing issues too), you realize that there are portions of the Zapruder Film that would make a good Double Feature alongside the Road Runner Cartoon Series. How on earth can JFK suffer that gaping blowout hole in the SIDE of his head, and then NOT have blood/brain matter blown all over the (R) side/interior of the Limo? And/Or the (N) side of Elm St? There are numerous portions of the Current Z Film that flat-out defy real life experience.     

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