Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #350 on: September 06, 2018, 05:10:54 PM »
That's an excellent summation of the CT method. Of course such a defense would be laughed out of court. Any half decent prosecutor would construct a narrative that connects the evidence in a logical fashion leaving the defense with a pile of parts that simply can't be constructed into a satisfactory account.

That's the whole problem.  The prosecution "constructs a narrative" first, and then desperately tries to shoehorn the evidence into that narrative.  There's nothing logical about it.

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Of course Oswald would appeal on the grounds that his attorney was an idiot but that would simply delay the obvious i.e. guilty on two counts of murder.

Where does this false bravado that all LNs seem to possess come from?  Do you really think that makes your argument more compelling?

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #351 on: September 06, 2018, 06:12:35 PM »
Excuse me, when did Brewer say "ducking"?

He didn't have to, but you're excused anyway.

Point is Brewer got the impression that Saint Patsy was ducking the cops.

That's why he took the action he did.

And sorry, his action was completely rational.

Unlike you.

Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #352 on: September 06, 2018, 06:27:59 PM »
I would think, given that Brewer had heard about  the assassination and the murder of Tippit, that if someone stepped into the lobby of his shop when there were police sirens in the area, stared ahead with his back to the street, then left when the sirens were moving away, that being a bit suspicious of that man would be quite understandable.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #353 on: September 06, 2018, 07:37:20 PM »
What actual evidence is that?

My comment was based on the actual evidence.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #354 on: September 06, 2018, 07:51:04 PM »
Perhaps Lee Harvey Oswald considered the possibility of law-enforcement checking everyone who entered the TSBD. Lee would not like to be found to have a rifle "and" a hand-gun in a building on the President's motorcade route?

Oswald could have contemplated the possibility of being stopped from leaving the TSBD after he shot President Kennedy. If not for Truly vouching for Oswald, Officer Baker would have searched him.

It seems to me that Oswald carrying a revolver in the TSBD Friday morning would have been risky. He was shrewd enough to know that.

How does anyone know for sure that Oswald didn't have his hand gun at work that day?  I doubt that he did, but there is no conclusive way to know for certain.  To get his handgun to the TSBD on Friday, Oswald would to have taken it to work with him on Thursday, hid it all day, smuggled it with him on his trip to Irving, hid it at the Paine home that night, taken it back with him on Friday morning. I suppose he could have left it in the building overnight on Thursday but that would risk discovery.   Oswald has no real need for a handgun that morning.  He has his hands full pulling off the assassination.  He has a loaded rifle as he escapes the 6th floor.  If he needs to shoot anyone, he does so with his rifle.  Once he is off the floor, he is just another employee in the building.  And in the end, we don't need to know why to accept his guilt in the assassination.  The evidence proves he did it.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #355 on: September 06, 2018, 08:12:50 PM »
What reaction?  He just "looked scared and funny" whatever that means.

scared     
fearful, frightened, panicky, panic-stricken, petrified, scared sh*tless, shaken, sh*t scared   

1. funny haha

2. funny strange, odd, unusual, especially in such a way as to arouse suspicion.
eg: ?there was something funny going on'

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #356 on: September 06, 2018, 08:13:36 PM »
The record is clear that Brewer found Oswald suspicious and that led to his arrest.  It is hard to understand the relevance of calling into question Brewer's motives for finding Oswald suspicious.   Even if some contrarian believes that Brewer's explanation for doing so isn't satisfactory, why does that matter unless they are implying that Brewer was a conspirator playing a role in the plot to lead the police to Oswald?  If not and the implication of a conspiracy in questioning Brewer's motives is a "strawman", then Brewer's reasons - whether reasonable or unreasonable - for concluding that Oswald was acting suspiciously doesn't seem to matter.  At best, all you are claiming is that Brewer acted differently than you would expect under the circumstances.  So what?