Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 02:01:19 AM »


Finally, you're asking a question and a good one at that. I've always wondered about that. It's a conundrum for sure, but then so is him going to a middle of nowhere place like 10th street. What in the world was he doing there, walking along with no obvious place to go, when he could have been on a bus out of town?



Could he have ordered a bus to come by and pick him up at the boarding house or would he have to walk somewhere? When my car is being repaired and I need to use public transportation, my experience is that I have to do a good deal of walking, particularly if I don?t want to wait for a few hours for a bus to come by that is going where I want to go. I have walked over two miles on occasion to pick up a bus I want.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 02:08:17 AM »


And that is a good question as well Martin. It just has seemed really odd, his actions. But then Ruby robbed us of ever knowing the answer.


Did it really? Would we have been able to trust implicitly whatever Oswald said? I think that whether Oswald lived or died people would still have to look at the facts to figure out what was most probable.

** Oswald arranged for a unique weeknight ride to where his wife was staying instead of the usual weekend ride.

** Oswald brought to work a long object wrapped in paper (it would be too embarrassing to be seen with curtain rods).

** Oswald was the only one at work who immediately left the Dealey Plaza area. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I understand a few others left the building to check out what happened from other people in the plaza. And then found themselves locked out of the building by the police. Only then did they go home.

** Oswald got on a bus and then immediately off when it was stuck in traffic.

** Oswald ordered his only taxi ride (quite an expense) that we know of during his life.



This seems pretty consistent to me. If Oswald lived and told me a different story, I probably would not believe him.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 02:10:45 AM »


He wasn't the only one not to return. Is there any evidence that shows he got "his" revolver?



Who else left the Dealey Plaza area immediately?

I understand a few other left the building to check out with people in the plaza what happened and then found themselves locked out when the police did not allow anyone to enter or leave. But I don?t know of anyone leaving immediately, let alone taking an expensive (for Oswald) taxi ride.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 02:16:21 AM »


When Lee went to work at the TSBD by bus, where was his usual bus stop?



Was there a bus scheduled to come by there within a half hour of 1:00 PM?

Would this bus take him to where he wants to go?



There are several bus stops within a half mile of where I live but I still usually have to walk some ways because the bus isn?t coming soon or it does come soon but it?s not going in the direction I want to go.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 02:17:43 AM »


What are you implying Joe?

Did Mr Truly know where Charles Givens was?



What evidence is there that Charles Givens left Dealey Plaza immediately?

Did he take a taxi?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 03:51:01 AM »
First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight. I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at, from the building he worked in. Some of the TSBD employees left after the shooting, but he was the only one not to return. He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.

LOL

I wouldn't call that merely going to the movies exactly. More likely a somewhat-more-urgent gimme shelter response.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 03:56:17 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 04:30:12 AM »


To Mr Truly, at that immediate time post assassination - Givens could have been the actual assassin or a co conspirator.

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Givens was missing from the line up as well.

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Why did Mr Truly report only Lee "missing"?



Oswald was the natural one for Mr. Truly to suspect. He saw a police officer point a gun at Oswald. He vouched for Oswald because he didn?t realize the shots came from that building, let alone from one of his employees. When he heard a rifle was found, naturally his mind would go back to Officer Baker pointing a gun at Oswald.

If Officer Baker had initially suspected Givens but Truly immediately focused on Oswald, that would be strange. But knowing the shots were fired from that building. The shooter might be one of his employees. And an officer initially suspected Oswald. Naturally his suspicious are going to be initially turned to Oswald. And enhanced when he also realizes he hasn?t seen Oswald since that encounter with Officer Baker.