When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2025, 11:06:24 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2025, 03:03:52 PM »
I could not find a copy of the 1963 magazine article.
I am thinking that the hole was not filled, in which case it would be vizible from under the limo at the museum.

   I specifically do Not know what he means by, "floor PAN". The FLOOR of a car is the FLOOR of a car. A FLOOR description is easily understood. FLOOR or FLOOR BOARD is specific all by itself.  The "PAN"? I am familiar with the OIL "PAN" at the bottom of a car. Maybe the oil pan had a bullet hole in it?
   Getting into a possible bullet hole in the floor/oil pan of the JFK Limo then leads to the discussion of a possible missed shot. A missed shot striking the street and ricocheting underneath the car and Upward into the oil pan.   
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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2025, 09:58:19 PM »
   I specifically do Not know what he means by, "floor PAN". The FLOOR of a car is the FLOOR of a car. A FLOOR description is easily understood. FLOOR or FLOOR BOARD is specific all by itself.  The "PAN"? I am familiar with the OIL "PAN" at the bottom of a car. Maybe the oil pan had a bullet hole in it?
   Getting into a possible bullet hole in the floor/oil pan of the JFK Limo then leads to the discussion of a possible missed shot. A missed shot striking the street and ricocheting underneath the car and Upward into the oil pan.
Striking the tarmac directly would result in the slug annihilating into small bits. And a big "hole" in the tarmac.
There would be no ricochet offa tarmac at that angle. No hole in the limo. No brass half jackets in the limo. No splatter hitting JFK on the head.
No, the slug ricocheted offa the overhead signal arm. At about pseudo-Z105. And the photo of the hole in the floor is true.
The remnant slug might then have hit the driveshaft &/or tarmac.
The floor carpet (& hole in carpet) might still exist, even tho the guy who removed/replaced it in 1963 said that he destroyed the carpet.

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« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2025, 10:29:25 PM »
Striking the tarmac directly would result in the slug annihilating into small bits. And a big "hole" in the tarmac.
There would be no ricochet offa tarmac at that angle. No hole in the limo. No brass half jackets in the limo. No splatter hitting JFK on the head.
No, the slug ricocheted offa the overhead signal arm. At about pseudo-Z105. And the photo of the hole in the floor is true.
The remnant slug might then have hit the driveshaft &/or tarmac.
The floor carpet (& hole in carpet) might still exist, even tho the guy who removed/replaced it in 1963 said that he destroyed the carpet.

   We really have No Idea what the street looked like after the assassination. How many detailed photos/still frames of the street have you ever seen? Same goes for the grass surface of The Grassy Knoll and The Knoll, (in front of the Pergola). The condition of the grass surface is important due to the possibility of bullet(s) furrowing into the ground, and reports of a motorcycle racing across/up it.

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« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2025, 10:57:18 PM »
   We really have No Idea what the street looked like after the assassination. How many detailed photos/still frames of the street have you ever seen? Same goes for the grass surface of The Grassy Knoll and The Knoll, (in front of the Pergola). The condition of the grass surface is important due to the possibility of bullet(s) furrowing into the ground, and reports of a motorcycle racing across/up it.
One of the surveyors who made a map of the plaza said that he looked for & found no bullet damage in tarmac.
But he might not have had a proper look at every inch, just looked at a few critical areas i think, probly spent little or zero time looking upstream of Z133.

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