NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible

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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2025, 02:04:36 AM »
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More Flat Earther material that simply ignores a massive body of evidence, including hard physical evidence and undeniable photographic evidence. Only in the delusional dream world of lone-gunman theorists is the SBT "a coherent answer" and "the only answer." Three of the seven members of the WC itself didn't buy the SBT. The guy who actually experienced the second set of wounds in the shooting, Gov. Connally, flatly rejected the SBT's requirement that he was hit before Z229. The latest incarnation of the SBT requires the hilarious and preposterous assumption that JFK is not reacting to a wound in Z225, never mind that a veritable boat load of previous lone-gunman theorists freely admitted that Z225 shows JFK reacting to a wound.

You still have not gotten around to explaining how a bullet that exited the shirt slits could have nicked the top surface of the tie knot inward from the knot's left edge when the tie knot was neatly centered in the middle of the collar band.

Your only answer to the hard physical evidence of the rear JFK clothing holes is the ridiculous bunched-clothing theory that (1) is refuted by Croft 3 and Willis Slide 5 and (2) is absurd on its face because it requires us to believe that the shirt magically bunched in nearly perfect correspondence with the coat, even though JFK's seated position pinned at least half of the shirt against the seat.

Your only answer to the fact that the autopsy face sheet, the death certificate, and the wound diagrams of FBI agents Sibert and O'Neill all place the back wound well below the throat wound is to lamely claim they were all "mistaken," never mind that their location agrees with the rear clothing holes.

You can't cite a single wound ballistics test that has even come close to duplicating the SBT's magical journey and resulting condition, nor can you cite a single case in forensic history where an FMJ bullet did so much damage but emerged with its lands and grooves intact and with the less than 4 grains lost from its substance.

You have to simply ignore the facts about JFK's throat wound (small, neat, and punched-in), Connally's back wound (too small to have been caused by a bullet that hit sideways), and the wound tract through Connally's chest (too narrow to have been made by a bullet traveling sideways/tumbling) because all three wounds refute the SBT's assumption that the bullet was tumbling when it supposedly left JFK's throat and hit and tore through Connally while traveling sideways, yet CE 399's deformation shows that whatever it hit, it hit with its side.

And on and on we could go.
MTG "You still have not gotten around to explaining how a bullet that exited the shirt slits could have nicked the top surface of the tie knot inward from the knot's left edge when the tie knot was neatly centered in the middle of the collar band."

Oh, but it has and with photos supplied by you. If you choose to believe the photos as seen by your own eyes that is your problem and your problem alone.

“You can't cite a single wound ballistics test that has even come close to duplicating the SBT's magical journey and resulting condition,”

With your extensive experience and knowledge of ballistic testing, we will rely on you to explain exactly how you perform a test shooting bullets sideways out of the barrel of a gun.

“nor can you cite a single case in forensic history where an FMJ bullet did so much damage but emerged with its lands and grooves intact and with the less than 4 grains lost from its substance.”

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MTG "left JFK's throat and hit and tore through Connally while traveling sideways, yet CE 399's deformation shows that whatever it hit, it hit with its side.
 
And on and on we could go".


Not really. You just admitted the bullet was tumbling while passing through JBC, just like the surgeons stated. You admit CE 399 is damaged while tumbling and striking bones sideways.

MTG  ”yet CE 399's deformation shows that whatever it hit, it hit with its side.” 
 


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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2025, 02:04:36 AM »


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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2025, 10:58:30 AM »
BTW, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, the author of widely used textbooks on gunshot wounds and forensic science, who was considered to be one of the world's leading forensic pathologists until his death in 2022, told British physiologist Russell Kent in 2020 that he no longer believed in the single-bullet theory (Russell Kent, JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, Abraham Maine Publishing, 2022, p. 233).

For those who might be interested in Russell Kent's credentials, Kent earned a BSc with Honours in physiology from the University of London and then joined the staff of the Laboratory of Applied Physiology at St. Thomas's Hospital Medical School, one of England's premier medical schools at the time. His book JFK Medical Betrayal is one of the best books ever written on the medical evidence. Because of Kent's background and status, he was able to correspond with a number of experts who have been involved with the JFK case, including DiMaio, Lattimer, Wecht, and Baden.
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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2025, 02:34:03 PM »
BTW, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, the author of widely used textbooks on gunshot wounds and forensic science, who was considered to be one of the world's leading forensic pathologists until his death in 2022, told British physiologist Russell Kent in 2020 that he no longer believed in the single-bullet theory (Russell Kent, JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, Abraham Maine Publishing, 2022, p. 233).

For those who might be interested in Russell Kent's credentials, Kent earned a BSc with Honours in physiology from the University of London and then joined the staff of the Laboratory of Applied Physiology at St. Thomas's Hospital Medical School, one of England's premier medical schools at the time. His book JFK Medical Betrayal is one of the best books ever written on the medical evidence. Because of Kent's background and status, he was able to correspond with a number of experts who have been involved with the JFK case, including DiMaio, Lattimer, Wecht, and Baden.

Then why would Vincent DiMaio publish this?

Gunshot Wounds: Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic ...
By Vincent J.M. DiMaio, M.D.
 
Military bullets, by virtue of their full metal jackets, tend to pass
through the body intact, thus producing less extensive injuries than
hunting ammunition. Military bullets usually do not fragment in the body
or shed fragments of lead in their paths. Because of the high velocity of
such military rounds as well as their tough construction, it is possible
for such bullets to pass through more than one individual before coming to
rest. These bullets may be almost virginal in appearance after recovery
from the body.

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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #115 on: November 15, 2025, 02:16:49 PM »
SBT believers never address the stark difference between the alleged angle through JFK and the angle through Connally. Dr. Robert Shaw, the surgeon who operated on Connally's chest wounds, measured the angle through the governor's chest as 25 degrees downward, 8 degrees more downward than the downward angle claimed by the WC and the HSCA (and the HSCA FPP's measurement falsely assumed that JFK was learning markedly forward when the bullet struck his back). Physiologist Russel Kent explains:

The HSCA and Warren Commission placed the back wound wherever it seemed most convenient for their version and then accepted whatever angle produced. For the Warren Commission, the trajectory was about 17 degrees downwards.[481] For the HSCA it was 17 degrees downwards if you allow for the unproven forward lean or about 4 degrees upwards if you do not.

Both seemed to have forgotten that the single-bullet theory then required this shot to go through Connally. His thoracic surgeon, Dr Shaw measured the perforating angle through Connally’s chest during testimony as 25 degrees downwards.[482] This is eight degrees more downward than the HSCA and Warren Commission’s estimated that the bullet had left JFK’s throat. This means that the bullet would have made an eight-degree mid-air dip between Kennedy and Connally. That was impossible, so they all ignored it. (JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, p. 174)



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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #116 on: November 15, 2025, 03:56:55 PM »
SBT believers never address the stark difference between the alleged angle through JFK and the angle through Connally. Dr. Robert Shaw, the surgeon who operated on Connally's chest wounds, measured the angle through the governor's chest as 25 degrees downward, 8 degrees more downward than the downward angle claimed by the WC and the HSCA (and the HSCA FPP's measurement falsely assumed that JFK was learning markedly forward when the bullet struck his back). Physiologist Russel Kent explains:

The HSCA and Warren Commission placed the back wound wherever it seemed most convenient for their version and then accepted whatever angle produced. For the Warren Commission, the trajectory was about 17 degrees downwards.[481] For the HSCA it was 17 degrees downwards if you allow for the unproven forward lean or about 4 degrees upwards if you do not.

Both seemed to have forgotten that the single-bullet theory then required this shot to go through Connally. His thoracic surgeon, Dr Shaw measured the perforating angle through Connally’s chest during testimony as 25 degrees downwards.[482] This is eight degrees more downward than the HSCA and Warren Commission’s estimated that the bullet had left JFK’s throat. This means that the bullet would have made an eight-degree mid-air dip between Kennedy and Connally. That was impossible, so they all ignored it. (JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, p. 174)


Another Michael Griffith "expert." Visiting museums sure has helped enlighten him as to bullet trajectories. Nothing like the smell of old stuff to help sharpen mental acuity about a subject he knows nothing about.

(JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies  by

Russel Kent:

About the author

Russell is a retired IT consultant. In a 35-year career, he owned and managed two companies which provided writing and training services to many of the world's largest users of digital technology. He has a BSc in physiology from London University and is a published scientist.

His interests in modern history, law and medicine have led to him spending many days in museums, libraries and archives. Among his favourites are The Mütter Museum in Philadelphia, The Wiener Holocaust Library in Bloomsbury and The National Archives in Kew.

Since the Covid-19 lockdowns in 2020, he has written two books and is working on the outline for a third. He lives in Cambridge, England where he enjoys walking, music and cinema.

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It is hard to believe you were in military Intelligence. Were you mopping floors or were you on bathroom and carpet cleaning details? Obviously, analysis is not your deal. 

Your skills only permit you to think of straight-line trajectories and you don't understand bullets traveling through different mediums can be deflected. Have you ever read a single sentence from the opinions of the WC experts who explain how it was all possible or is that a little too realistic for your beliefs, Additionally, Dr Shaw and Dr Gregory both believed it was very possible and one bullet explained all of the wounds. 

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Re: NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible
« Reply #117 on: November 17, 2025, 04:08:19 PM »
It is often overlooked that the FBI's five-volume 12/9/1963 report on the assassination, officially titled Investigation of Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, said that JFK and Connally were hit by separate bullets. The FBI report said that the first shot hit JFK in the back and did not leave his body, that the second shot hit Connally and caused all of his wounds, and that the third shot hit JFK in the head.

The FBI knew from Sibert and O'Neill's report on the autopsy that the back wound was shallow and had no exit point. A number of other autopsy witnesses later confirmed this.
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SBT believers never address the stark difference between the alleged angle through JFK and the angle through Connally. Dr. Robert Shaw, the surgeon who operated on Connally's chest wounds, measured the angle through the governor's chest as 25 degrees downward, 8 degrees more downward than the downward angle claimed by the WC and the HSCA (and the HSCA FPP's measurement falsely assumed that JFK was learning markedly forward when the bullet struck his back). Physiologist Russel Kent explains:

The HSCA and Warren Commission placed the back wound wherever it seemed most convenient for their version and then accepted whatever angle produced. For the Warren Commission, the trajectory was about 17 degrees downwards.[481] For the HSCA it was 17 degrees downwards if you allow for the unproven forward lean or about 4 degrees upwards if you do not.

Both seemed to have forgotten that the single-bullet theory then required this shot to go through Connally. His thoracic surgeon, Dr Shaw measured the perforating angle through Connally’s chest during testimony as 25 degrees downwards.[482] This is eight degrees more downward than the HSCA and Warren Commission’s estimated that the bullet had left JFK’s throat. This means that the bullet would have made an eight-degree mid-air dip between Kennedy and Connally. That was impossible, so they all ignored it. (JFK Medical Betrayal: Where the Evidence Lies, p. 174)


The 25 degree (approximate) downward angle through JBC is easily explained if JBC was struck around z271:



At that time, JBC was leaning backward at an angle of 8.5 degrees to car-vertical. A shot from the SN was moving downward relative to the car at 18 degrees.  So relative to JBC's vertical body line, it would have struck at a downward angle of 26.5 degrees.
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