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Online Fred Litwin

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Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« on: October 18, 2025, 02:59:53 PM »
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Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation 

A letter written by Lee Harvey Oswald, contained in the Soviet file given to Congresswoman Luna, proves the KGB conducted an operation to influence American public opinion that the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination.

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Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« on: October 18, 2025, 02:59:53 PM »


Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2025, 09:08:36 PM »
On the Belarus files: Norman Mailer was given access to some Belarus KGB files (he quotes from them in his book on Oswald) shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union but that they were less extensive than he hoped. Despite those limits he was able to interview some two dozen KGB agents including the ones in Minsk that monitored Oswald along with Oswald's friends and associates. His conclusion was there's nothing there, that the KGB didn't recruit or use Oswald. He was considered more of a distraction than a potential asset.

In fact, Oswald was viewed as an oddball (the suicide attempt most notably) and the Belarus KGB agents said they were happy to see him return to the US and no longer potentially cause an international incident. Which, after originally viewing him as a danger, a CIA agent, they were mostly worried about. Many of the agents were around during the Stalin/Beria era and they learned firsthand to not draw attention to yourself. They were worried that Oswald would do just that - cause attention to them - even though it was less harsh post-Stalin period.

Still, I'd like to see those files and it's not clear at this point why they - I assume the Belarus government still has them? Or would it be Moscow? - would still be holding them.

From Mailer's "Oswald's Tale".

« Last Edit: October 19, 2025, 01:34:56 AM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2025, 10:10:10 PM »
Norman Mailer said he was given access to some Belarus KGB files shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union but that they were less extensive than he hoped. Still he said he was able to interview some two dozen KGB agents including the ones that monitored Oswald and his conclusion was there's nothing there. Oswald was viewed as an oddball and they were happy to see him return to the US and not potentially cause an international incident. Many of the agents were around during the Stalin era and they learned firsthand to not draw attention to yourself. They were worried that Oswald would do that.

From Mailer's "Oswald's Tale".



Dear Steve M.,

When one reads Masha Gessen's 2012 book, The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin, one realizes that in August of 1991 the KGB orchestrated a planned-to-fail "hardliner coup" so that power could be transferred from Gorbachev to Yeltsin with the unspoken understanding that Yeltsin was forever beholden to it and that it was still in control of everything.

Bottom line: Why would anyone believe what a bunch of current or "former" KGB officers said in the former USSR about the KGB's alleged non-involvement with a former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator during the two-and-one-half years he lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk, married a probable KGB informant (according to true defector Pyotr Deriabin) and then returned to the U.S. and 1) attempted to assassinate General Walker, 2) did assassinate JFK, and 3) murdered DPD officer Tippit?

All of which reminds me of KGB Colonel Oleg Nechiporenko's 1993 book, Passport to Assassination, in which he implausibly devotes fifty pages to extolling the alleged bona fides Yuri Nosenko and condemning the paranoiac, incompetent, and sadistic natures of his anti-Nosenko / pro-Golitsyn primary case officer, Tennent H. Bagley, and Bagley's anti-Nosenko / pro-Golitsyn colleagues.

And how, on 11/22/93, then-KGB General Nikolai Leonov (RIP; aka "The Blond Oswald in Mexico City), without mentioning Oswald's alleged weeping and revolver-brandishing meeting with Nechiporenko, Yatskov and Kostikov at the Consulate on Saturday, 9/28/63, told National Enquirer that Oswald interdicted him during volleyball warmups on SUNDAY, 9/29/63, and started ... yep ... weeping and brandishing his revolver in his Embassy office .

LOL!

-- Tom

PS Here's Bagley's free-to-read 2007 book, Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries, and Deadly Games.

https://archive.org/details/SpyWarsMolesMysteriesAndDeadlyGames
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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2025, 01:55:23 AM »
SMG--

Why would anyone believe anything the CIA, or the Belarus KGB, said, regarding LHO?

If LHO was being run out of the Belarus KGB, and later perped the JFKA...you can rest assured the Belarus KGB files would be scrubbed.

This is worth nothing:

From CIA files:

“IJDECANTER (a CIA asset) knew Yurshak as Belorussian KGB in Minsk in the early 1980s. Yurshak was in his late 50s then. When asked if Yurshak was bragging, he said, "no...I think that 100 percent he was involved in this Oswald case...He was stuck to his one point of view. First, never had any kind of task for Oswald to kill Kennedy. Second, that he was actually recruited and he ran him. And third, Marina was our swallow and then she rejected cooperation.”

---30---

So the Belarus KGB'er said he recruited and was running LHO.

What does that mean? I don't know.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2025, 02:02:22 AM »
SMG--

Why would anyone believe anything the CIA, or the Belarus KGB, said, regarding LHO?

If LHO was being run out of the Belarus KGB, and later perped the JFKA...you can rest assured the Belarus KGB files would be scrubbed.

This is worth nothing:

From CIA files:

“IJDECANTER (a CIA asset) knew Yurshak as Belorussian KGB in Minsk in the early 1980s. Yurshak was in his late 50s then. When asked if Yurshak was bragging, he said, "no...I think that 100 percent he was involved in this Oswald case...He was stuck to his one point of view. First, never had any kind of task for Oswald to kill Kennedy. Second, that he was actually recruited and he ran him. And third, Marina was our swallow and then she rejected cooperation.”

---30---

So the Belarus KGB'er said he recruited and was running LHO.

What does that mean? I don't know.

FWIW, Sergei Papushin (IJDECANTER) was a Kremlin-loyal false defector.

Even "useful idiot" Milton Bearden and ditzy Nosenko/McCoy/Kisevalter-loving Sandra Grimes (who took seven years or so to uncover Aldrich Ames and who, along with Cynthia Hausman, was sent by probable mole Leonard V. McCoy to counterintelligence-hating James Geer to help him overturn the FBI's then-recent correct determination that FEDORA was a KGB plant), alluded as much in their books.

Unfortunately, John M. Newman lends Papushin a lot of credence in his 2022 book, Uncovering Popov's Mole.
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2025, 10:35:33 PM »
SMG--

Why would anyone believe anything the CIA, or the Belarus KGB, said, regarding LHO?

If LHO was being run out of the Belarus KGB, and later perped the JFKA...you can rest assured the Belarus KGB files would be scrubbed.

This is worth nothing:

From CIA files:

“IJDECANTER (a CIA asset) knew Yurshak as Belorussian KGB in Minsk in the early 1980s. Yurshak was in his late 50s then. When asked if Yurshak was bragging, he said, "no...I think that 100 percent he was involved in this Oswald case...He was stuck to his one point of view. First, never had any kind of task for Oswald to kill Kennedy. Second, that he was actually recruited and he ran him. And third, Marina was our swallow and then she rejected cooperation.”

---30---

So the Belarus KGB'er said he recruited and was running LHO.

What does that mean? I don't know.
Okay, if you want to dismiss all of these (and other) files, the interviews with the agents, the interviews with Oswald's friends and associates, Oswald's very critical statements about the Soviet Union when he returned, his erratic behavior there, then what should we use to evaluate what happened in the Soviet Union?

If you think all of this was faked, orchestrated, the documents falsified, the agents all lied, the accounts by the people who knew Oswald staged then where can we go? No matter what evidence is produced can be dismissed as disinformation, as a sort of Potemkin Village account of what happened in Minsk. This is like the conspiracy Left arguing that all of the evidence he didn't work for the CIA is false, that he was a CIA agent or asset.

What are we supposed to use? We look at the evidence, weigh it, consider explanations and make judgments.
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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2025, 01:15:30 AM »
Okay, if you want to dismiss all of these (and other) files, the interviews with the agents, the interviews with Oswald's friends and associates, Oswald's very critical statements about the Soviet Union when he returned, his erratic behavior there, then what should we use to evaluate what happened in the Soviet Union?

If you think all of this was faked, orchestrated, the documents falsified, the agents all lied, the accounts by the people who knew Oswald staged then where can we go? No matter what evidence is produced can be dismissed as disinformation, as a sort of Potemkin Village account of what happened in Minsk. This is like the conspiracy Left arguing that all of the evidence he didn't work for the CIA is false, that he was a CIA agent or asset.

What are we supposed to use? We look at the evidence, weigh it, consider explanations and make judgments.

SMG--

Well, you ask some tough questions. I don't have a firm answer on when to believe JFKA evidence, documents and statements by witnesses or intel agencies.

Ronald Reagan used to say, "Trust. But verify."  Maybe "Do not trust, and verify double," is the catchword for JFKA research.

I will say that even Jeff Morley said the new Russian files are Putin propaganda.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.


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Re: Soviet File Given to Luna Proves a KGB Operation
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2025, 05:25:24 AM »
Okay, if you want to dismiss all of these (and other) files, the interviews with the agents, the interviews with Oswald's friends and associates, Oswald's very critical statements about the Soviet Union when he returned, his erratic behavior there, then what should we use to evaluate what happened in the Soviet Union?

If you think all of this was faked, orchestrated, the documents falsified, the agents all lied, the accounts by the people who knew Oswald staged then where can we go? No matter what evidence is produced can be dismissed as disinformation, as a sort of Potemkin Village account of what happened in Minsk. This is like the conspiracy Left arguing that all of the evidence he didn't work for the CIA is false, that he was a CIA agent or asset.

What are we supposed to use? We look at the evidence, weigh it, consider explanations and make judgments.

Dear Steve M.,

Even if the JFKA wasn't a Soviet plot, the Kremlin didn't (and still probably doesn't) want U.S. investigators to realize that a KGB "mole" in the CIA sent former U-2 radar operator Oswald to Moscow on a completely different mission -- to unwittingly protect said "mole" from being uncovered as the person who 1) betrayed CIA's spy, GRU Lt. Col. Pyotr Popov, in Washington, D.C., movie houses in early 1957, and 2) leaked the U-2's specifications to the KGB at some point before April 1958 (according to probable "mole" George Kisevalter -- Popov's CIA handler in West Berlin who sent an alarming cable to CIA headquarters -- and former high-level CIA officer Willian Hood in his 1982 book, "Mole").

-- Tom
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