What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?

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Offline Tommy Shanks

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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2025, 04:25:08 PM »
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This thread is a perfect example of what happens when you try to engage lone-gunman theorists in substantive discussion about the essence of their case, i.e., the fact that the alleged shooting feat was far beyond the ability of their supposed lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, and would have been extremely difficult, and arguably impossible, even for a highly skilled rifleman.

Who CARES how "difficult" it may or may not have been? That is a pointless statement. EVERY piece of physical evidence in this case proves the shots were fired by a single weapon from above and behind the motorcade, no matter how "difficult" they were.

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2025, 05:05:09 PM »
This thread is a perfect example of what happens when you try to engage lone-gunman theorists in substantive discussion about the essence of their case, i.e., the fact that the alleged shooting feat was far beyond the ability of their supposed lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, and would have been extremely difficult, and arguably impossible, even for a highly skilled rifleman.

“the essence of their case”

The essence of the case is there were only two shots you have never proven there was third. Shooting feat? Pure fantasy. Focusing on something that never happened.

The whole expert rifle tripe is nothing but nonsense. Plays no role in understanding the shooting sequence.

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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2025, 01:49:34 PM »
“the essence of their case”

The essence of the case is there were only two shots you have never proven there was third. Shooting feat? Pure fantasy. Focusing on something that never happened.

You're a broken-record fringe troll who just repeats the same bizarre arguments and ignores fats that refute them. Your bizarre two-shots-only theory is even rejected by the vast majority of your fellow lone-gunman theorists.

The whole expert rifle tripe is nothing but nonsense. Plays no role in understanding the shooting sequence.

And the Earth is flat. Even WC staffer Wesley Liebeler admitted in an internal memo, released by the HSCA, that the alleged shooting feat would have been quite difficult and that it was "simply dishonest" to pretend otherwise.

Your only answer to the WC and CBS rifle tests is to float your ridiculous two-shots-only theory, even after I proved to you that the WC rifle test proved that even a two-shots-only shooting feat would have been very difficult even for Master-rated riflemen.

I've seen your fellow lone-gunman theorists point out to you that most of the witnesses said they heard three shots, yet you keep making the false claim that most of the witnesses said they only heard two shots.

It is a waste of time trying to reason with you.

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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2025, 06:18:42 PM »
You're a broken-record fringe troll who just repeats the same bizarre arguments and ignores fats that refute them. Your bizarre two-shots-only theory is even rejected by the vast majority of your fellow lone-gunman theorists.

And the Earth is flat. Even WC staffer Wesley Liebeler admitted in an internal memo, released by the HSCA, that the alleged shooting feat would have been quite difficult and that it was "simply dishonest" to pretend otherwise.

Your only answer to the WC and CBS rifle tests is to float your ridiculous two-shots-only theory, even after I proved to you that the WC rifle test proved that even a two-shots-only shooting feat would have been very difficult even for Master-rated riflemen.

I've seen your fellow lone-gunman theorists point out to you that most of the witnesses said they heard three shots, yet you keep making the false claim that most of the witnesses said they only heard two shots.

It is a waste of time trying to reason with you.

"You're a broken-record fringe troll who just repeats the same bizarre arguments and ignores fats that refute them. Your bizarre two-shots-only theory is even rejected by the vast majority of your fellow lone-gunman theorists.”

The amazing thing is repeating the same argument for your benefit, and still you cannot grasp the significance, but instead, choose to continually just keep chasing your tail with made up conspiracy fantasies based on your mistaken belief in at least three shots were fired. 

Which one of the lone-gunman theorists do you value their opinion so much that you are willing to abandon your conspiracy mindset?

LHO firing just two shots is the answer; any opinion to the contrary is wrong. Like yourself the lone-gunman theorists cannot seem to abandon a shot that cannot be proven, and both WC and the HSCA stated was the result of medias influence.

 
“And the Earth is flat. Even WC staffer Wesley Liebeler admitted in an internal memo, released by the HSCA, that the alleged shooting feat would have been quite difficult and that it was "simply dishonest to pretend otherwise.”

You keep repeating that the Earth is flat. Are you not certain of it? Let me help, not only is the Earth not flat, the JFKA did not have three shots fired in it, there were only just two shots fired.

Wesley Liebler probably has your skill level and maybe for Wesley Liebler it would be difficult, but not for a trained Marine like LHO, according to Major Anderson.

Mr. SPECTER ----...My question, then, is how would you characterize the difficulty or ease of that shot for a marksman with Mr. Oswald's capabilities?
Major ANDERSON - In my opinion this is not a particularly difficult shot, and that Oswald had full capabilities to make this shot

Mr. SPECTER.... I ask you again for an opinion as to the ease or difficulty of that shot, taking into consideration the capany opinion to the contrary is wrongabilities of Mr. Oswald as a marksman, evidenced by the Marine Corps documents on him.
Major ANDERSON - I consider it to be not a particularly difficult shot at this short range, and that Oswald had full capabilities to make such a shot.

 
 
“Your only answer to the WC and CBS rifle tests is to float your ridiculous two-shots-only theory, even after I proved to you that the WC rifle test proved that even a two-shots-only shooting feat would have been very difficult even for Master-rated riflemen”

Master-rated riflemen, Master-rated riflemen, Master-rated riflemen. Is Master-rated riflemen a boy Scout designation or something? Is there even such a thing or did you make that up. Major Anderson sure did not believe it was a hard shot. 

The whole shooting world knows a 55 yard and 88 yard shot would be a chip shot. Maybe lose the experts and grab a rifle yourself.


“Your only answer to the WC and CBS rifle tests is to float your ridiculous two-shots-only theory,”

The answer to these rifle tests is they were attempting to duplicate three shots in 5.6 seconds. The test should have been two shots in 5.6 seconds. You are not able to understand the difference between those two tests and how one would be difficult and the other not difficult at all.

 
“I've seen your fellow lone-gunman theorists point out to you that most of the witnesses said they heard three shots, yet you keep making the false claim that most of the witnesses said they only heard two shots.”

The lone gunman theorists are like you. They cannot prove a third shot but neither can they accept it didn’t happen no matter how much proof is presented. The lone gunman group doesn’t seem to be able to get out of their own way with all the odd explanations for a third shot. 

With the help of Pat Speer’s analysis and Josiah’s observation, these two conspiracy advocates have both supplied information helping prove there were only two shots. 
 
“It is a waste of time trying to reason with you.”

No, you have been wasting your time with all of your ridiculous conspiracy nonsense based on the premise there were three shots. Now you are realizing there were just the two shots. I bet that it is hard to accept. I do not know if this helps, but it would probably be less painful if you would burn all of your conspiracy essays instead of just throw them away or shred them.
 

 

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Re: What Would a Valid Lone-Gunman Rifle Test Look Like?
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2025, 06:18:42 PM »