The Zany Theory that Only Two Shots Were Fired During the Assassination

[Charles Collins]

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My recollection is that the manhole cover shot appeared to come from the direction of the TSBD or Dal-Tex buildings.

There has been something written to the effect a slug was found in the vicinity, but that remains controversial.

The direction of the bullet holes in the debris on the corner of the manhole apron indicates it came from the direction of the TSBD and went towards the area where Tague was wounded.

[Jack Nessan]

DPD JW Foster

3/24/64 FBI Affidavit

Patrolman FOSTER stated he was in a position directly above the south edge of Elm Street at the time the Presidential motorcade arrived. Just as the vehicle in which President KENNEDY was riding reached a point on Elm Street just east of the overpass, Patrolman FOSTER heard a noise that sounded like a large firecracker. He stated his attention was directed to President KENNEDY and he realized something was wrong because the movement of the President. Another report was heard by Patrolman FOSTER and at about the same time the report was heard, he observed the President's head appear to explode and immediately thereafter, he heard a third report which he knew was a shot. Patrolman FOSTER stated that because of the distance from the place where the shot appeared to come from, he felt the third shot struck President KENNEDY as he heard the sound of the second shot that was fired. He stated the shots sounded as if they came from the direction of the Texas School Book Depository Building, Houston and Elm Streets. Patrolman FOSTER stated he did not see where he shots came from or who fired them.


Foster stated the first shot hit JFK and he reacted; the second shot was the headshot. He then claims it maybe was the third shot. See the pattern. He clearly states the second shot was the headshot and then he adds the third shot to the narrative, and it does not really fit.

 Medias influence. Can you understand what his statement would have been if he had not been told there were three shots instead of two.

What did the tests of the lead smear or bullet fragments indicate? Something must have been left behind if it ricocheted. Actually no, nothing at all, it was just his imagination

Officer Foster never saw a bullet strike a thing. He imagined it did because he thought there should have been one. He looked for a place that had a disturbance of some kind that he could claim was a bullet strike.

Mr. BALL - What did you do after that?
Mr. FOSTER - I moved to -down the roadway there, down to see if I could find where any of he shots hit.
Mr. BALL - Find anything?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir. Found where one shot had hit the turf there at the location.
Mr. BALL - Hit the turf?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir.
 

Mr Ball realizes it all BS. Just his imagination.

[Charles Collins]

DPD JW Foster

3/24/64 FBI Affidavit

Patrolman FOSTER stated he was in a position directly above the south edge of Elm Street at the time the Presidential motorcade arrived. Just as the vehicle in which President KENNEDY was riding reached a point on Elm Street just east of the overpass, Patrolman FOSTER heard a noise that sounded like a large firecracker. He stated his attention was directed to President KENNEDY and he realized something was wrong because the movement of the President. Another report was heard by Patrolman FOSTER and at about the same time the report was heard, he observed the President's head appear to explode and immediately thereafter, he heard a third report which he knew was a shot. Patrolman FOSTER stated that because of the distance from the place where the shot appeared to come from, he felt the third shot struck President KENNEDY as he heard the sound of the second shot that was fired. He stated the shots sounded as if they came from the direction of the Texas School Book Depository Building, Houston and Elm Streets. Patrolman FOSTER stated he did not see where he shots came from or who fired them.


Foster stated the first shot hit JFK and he reacted; the second shot was the headshot. He then claims it maybe was the third shot. See the pattern. He clearly states the second shot was the headshot and then he adds the third shot to the narrative, and it does not really fit.

 Medias influence. Can you understand what his statement would have been if he had not been told there were three shots instead of two.

What did the tests of the lead smear or bullet fragments indicate? Something must have been left behind if it ricocheted. Actually no, nothing at all, it was just his imagination

Officer Foster never saw a bullet strike a thing. He imagined it did because he thought there should have been one. He looked for a place that had a disturbance of some kind that he could claim was a bullet strike.

Mr. BALL - What did you do after that?
Mr. FOSTER - I moved to -down the roadway there, down to see if I could find where any of he shots hit.
Mr. BALL - Find anything?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir. Found where one shot had hit the turf there at the location.
Mr. BALL - Hit the turf?
Mr. FOSTER - Yes, sir.
 

Mr Ball realizes it all BS. Just his imagination.

What did the tests of the lead smear or bullet fragments indicate? Something must have been left behind if it ricocheted. Actually no, nothing at all, it was just his imagination

What tests? Do you have any evidence that indicates anyone investigated the manhole apron ricochet any further than just taking some photos? I know that the FBI later cut out a piece of the curb near where Tague was standing and tested it and found lead deposits and they could actually state that the direction that the shot came from was the TSBD. But as far as I am aware, no such testing was ever done to the manhole apron ricochet site. If anyone knows anything about any testing done on the manhole apron ricochet site, please let us know. I am “all ears”.

[Michael Capasse]

I know that the FBI later cut out a piece of the curb near where Tague was standing and tested it and found lead deposits and they could actually state that the direction that the shot came from was the TSBD.

There was no lead found in that curb....in fact there was no mark...
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Shaneyfelt_Ex_26.pdf

[Charles Collins]

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Shaneyfelt_Ex_27.pdf

[Tom Graves]

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Shaneyfelt_Ex_27.pdf

"Herb Huskr" at the "JFK Truth Be Told" Facebook page has shown that the chip and lead/antimony smear on the curb may have been caused by a bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot.

[Charles Collins]

"Herb Huskr" at the "JFK Truth Be Told" Facebook page has shown that the chip and lead/antimony smear on the curb may have been caused by a bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot.

I have never heard of Herb Huskr. However, at least one well respected researcher that I know also believes that idea. I think it is definitely a good possibility. I created a thread a while back titled “The Other Single Bullet Theory” that suggests it could have been an early shot that missed the limo. After ricocheting off of Main Street it hit the manhole apron then ricocheted again and hit the south curb on Main Street near where Tague was standing. It’s just an idea, but the evidence seems to me to be consistent with it.

[Michael T. Griffith]

The direction of the bullet holes in the debris on the corner of the manhole apron indicates it came from the direction of the TSBD and went towards the area where Tague was wounded.

This is just nutty and ridiculous.

Officer Foster saw the bullet hit the grass and he radioed it in. Of course, WC apologists ignore his 11/22 radio transmission and rely on the changed story that he gave to the WC. They also ignore the 11/23 and 11/24 local press accounts of the bullet strike in the grass and of the recovery of a bullet from the grass.

What was the object that the agent in the suit reached down and picked up from the hole in the grass near the manhole cover? Huh? He reached down to the hole, then brought his hand up in cupping shape as if holding something, then put his hand in his pocket. What did he pick up? Dirt? No, he picked up a bullet, and everyone acknowledged this until it was realized that the miss and the recovered bullet did not fit the lone-gunman scenario.

Of course, we see the silly, long-debunked denials that a bullet hit the curb near Tague and sent a concrete or metal fragment streaking toward Tague to cut his face. Henry Hurt established back in the 1980s with the aid of construction experts that the hole in the Tague curb was patched. And, of course, there's also the fact that when Harold Weisberg sued to get access to the spectrographic plate of the curb hole sample, the FBI destroyed the plate, claiming a "lack of space." But the early evidence, before anyone knew what they were supposed to say, is clear that a bullet left an obvious bullet hole in the curb and that Tague was hit with a fragment from the bullet strike.

We just go around and around with these WC apologists. They won't admit anything. They repeat silly myths that were concocted to deny clear evidence of multiple gunmen. We have two clear cases of extra misses and an extra bullet that destroy the lone-gunman theory, but WC apologists will never admit it and will continue to float bogus theories to deny this evidence.