A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

[Tom Graves]

The Couch-Darnell Film snippet showing Officer Baker running directly in front of that car is the 1st/earliest image documentation of the position of this "getaway" car.

Good!

I do Not know what your definition of "abandoned" is? To me, if I can still see something, I have not "abandoned" it. Not at that point.

Are you stupid, or something?

I haven't accused you of abandoning a car next to the "island" on Elm Street Extension in Dallas, Texas, on 11/22/63.

When I say, "your mysto 'abandoned' getaway car," I'm referring to the car which Officer Baker can be seen running in front of in Couch-Darnell and which was hidden from Wiegman's camera about 20 seconds earlier behind the ten-or-eleven-person "gaggle" of spectators that stretched from the curving line of spectators in the street to "Fedora Man" on the "island."

In other words, "ROYELL STORING'S JFKA MYSTO 'ABANDONED' GETAWAY CAR."

-- Tom

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

[Royell Storing]

Good!

Are you stupid, or something?

I haven't accused you of abandoning a car next to the "island" on Elm Street Extension in Dallas, Texas, on 11/22/63.

When I say, "your mysto 'abandoned' getaway car," I'm referring to the car which Officer Baker can be seen running in front of in Couch-Darnell and which was hidden from Wiegman's camera about 20 seconds earlier behind the ten-or-eleven-person "gaggle" of spectators that stretched from the curving line of spectators in the street to "Fedora Man" on the "island."

In other words, "ROYELL STORING'S JFKA MYSTO 'ABANDONED' GETAWAY CAR."

-- Tom

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

   You are revealing that you simply do Not understand the Correct position of the "escape" car parked alongside the Island. That cars' front bumper is BEHIND the Signal Light Pole. This 17.5' long car stretches BACK past the Fedora Man toward the railroad yard. The car does NOT END at Fedora Man. It stretches past Fedora Man down the Elm St Ext. This is why we do Not see the car on the Wiegman Film. It is NOT THERE yet. You need to examine the: (1) Darnell Film, (2) Couch Film, (3) Hughes Film, and (4) Martin Film. This same car is visible on all 4 Films in the very same spot alongside the Island.

[Tom Graves]

You are revealing that you simply do Not understand the Correct position of the "escape" car parked alongside the Island. That cars' front bumper is BEHIND the Signal Light Pole. This 17.5' long car stretches BACK past the Fedora Man toward the railroad yard. The car does NOT END at Fedora Man. It stretches past Fedora Man down the Elm St Ext. This is why we do Not see the car on the Wiegman Film. It is NOT THERE yet. You need to examine the: (1) Darnell Film, (2) Couch Film, (3) Hughes Film, and (4) Martin Film. This same car is visible on all 4 Films in the very same spot alongside the Island.

Dear Comrade Storing,

I "get it" that your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR was parked a little bit behind the "Signal Light Pole" / "No Parking Pole" in Hughes and Martin clips. I'm just saying that from the perspective of the Couch-Darnell and Wiegman films, the front of the very same car is visible to us to the right of the "Signal Light Pole" / "No Parking Pole," and that the reason we can't see it in the latter is because the gaggle of spectators is hiding it from view.

(If it's the same car that's in the National Geographic video, it's a 1958 Pontiac)

Question: Do you think the way James spliced together two half-second-apart Wiegman frames in his Couch-Darnell / Wiegman overlap montage was devious or misleading?

Ya gotta scroll down to it:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

 All you gotta do is find an image of that car being parked alongside the island before the JFK Limo entered Dealey Plaza. I continue with my blanket challenge, "Prove me wrong". That's never gonna happen. That car was not there before the JFK Limo came along. 

[Tom Graves]

All you gotta do is find an image of that car being parked alongside the island before the JFK Limo entered Dealey Plaza. I continue with my blanket challenge, "Prove me wrong". That's never gonna happen. That car was not there before the JFK Limo came along.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Do you believe James' overlay montage was created in a devious, or perhaps unintentionally misinforming, way?

If so, what is it about his overlay montage that makes you believe that?

Hint: Ya gotta scroll down to it:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

  I choose to "believe" in real JFK Assassination Images. I do not believe in Man Made Overlays, Lego Car Visual Aids, etc. I believe in reality. As the REAL JFK Assassination Images become clearer, (like the recently released 1st Generation Copy of the 1st :40 seconds of the Darnell Film), the more Real Facts we have concerning this case. The car parked back from the corner, that DPD Cops Smith & Baker ran past only 25 seconds after the Kill Shot is a serious concern. The car is Not on the Wiegman Film, it IS on the Darnell/Couch Films 25 seconds later, and the car is still sitting there at least 20 minutes later. That car was abandoned after traveling down the Elm St Ext only seconds after the Kill Shot and then stopping back from the corner in a, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone alongside the Island.     

[Tom Graves]

I choose to "believe" in real JFK Assassination Images. I do not believe in Man Made Overlays, Lego Car Visual Aids, etc. I believe in reality. As the REAL JFK Assassination Images become clearer, (like the recently released 1st Generation Copy of the 1st :40 seconds of the Darnell Film), the more Real Facts we have concerning this case. The car parked back from the corner, that DPD Cops Smith & Baker ran past only 25 seconds after the Kill Shot is a serious concern. The car is Not on the Wiegman Film, it IS on the Darnell/Couch Films 25 seconds later, and the car is still sitting there at least 20 minutes later. That car was abandoned after traveling down the Elm St Ext only seconds after the Kill Shot and then stopping back from the corner in a, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone alongside the Island.     

Dear Comrade Storing,

Read my lips:

The reason your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR can't be seen in Wiegman is probably because it was hidden from his camera's view by ten or eleven people who were standing virtually shoulder-to-shoulder in the street and on the "island."


Questions:

How many seconds do you figure elapsed between the primary Wiegman frame and the Darnell frame that comprise James' overlay montage?

How long did it take your two bad guys to get back to the car after their shot (or shots) and drive it to where they parked it?

Did they hide the rifle in "the bushes," throw it in the back seat, put it in the trunk, or take it with them as they walked and ran towards the railway yard/parking lot in Couch-Darnell?

Was the engine already running, or did they have to start it?

Since, according to your scenario, they abandoned THE MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR right behind the traffic signal / "No Parking" pole while there were a lot of people in that area, how did they manage to park it without hitting anyone?

Why didn't any of them report that very strange (timing-wise, and in a "no parking" zone, at that!!!) parking to the police?

Why did the "Lovelady" bad guy figure start running in Couch-Darnell, anyway?

Did he see an open boxcar in the railway yard and want to jump in it before it pulled away?

Was he trying to hail a taxi?

Would the "Shelley" bad guy figure have run, too, if he hadn't been carrying that gosh darned rifle?

Did any of "Shooter In The Bushes" shots hit JFK?

If so, why didn't it blow out the left side of his brain?

LOL!

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

   Just Prove Me Wrong. That's all you gotta do. 1 single image of that car parked alongside the Island BEFORE the Wiegman Film Footage of the Island would do that. But as I learned in Religion Class, "from nothing, nothing comes". That car was NOT THERE Before and During the Wiegman Filming of the Island/Fedora Man.
   Just how do you believe a possible shooter and maybe a spotter would plan on escaping from the 6th Floor of the TSBD/Dealey Plaza? Hint - They definitely would Not plan on using the TSBD FRONT door.