A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2025, 07:19:57 PM »
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You're "assuming facts not in evidence". The Couch/Darnell still frames are not nearly clear enough to tell if these 2 Guys were: (1) "...dressed JUST LIKE William Shelley and Billy Lovelady", (2) "...one was wearing Lovelady's shirt, and, (3) had a bald spot JUST LIKE Billy's". The lack of detail in these still frames renders your claims to be not remotely fact based. What is a Fact is that both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testimony regarding their moving down the Elm St Ext at about 3 minutes after the kill shot. The Couch/Darnell fuzzy still frames showing these 2 guys were taken at roughly 30 seconds after the Kill Shot. Based on the timeline provided by Lovelady/Shelley in their own sworn testimonies means these fuzzy figures can Not be them.

Dear Comrade Storing,

If I understand you correctly, you think the car that's visible to the left of Fedora Man in the Wiegman clip isn't the car that's parked on the island side of Elm Street Extension in the Robert Hughes clip and in the National Geographic clip, but a car that's parked on the TSBD side of Elm Street Extension in the aforementioned National Geographic video.

If so, why is it so large in the Wiegman clip?

-- Tom

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2025, 08:26:15 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

If I understand you correctly, you think the car that's visible to the left of Fedora Man in the Wiegman clip isn't the car that's parked on the island side of Elm Street Extension in the Robert Hughes clip and in the National Geographic clip, but a car that's parked on the TSBD side of Elm Street Extension in the aforementioned National Geographic video.

If so, why is it so large in the Wiegman clip?

-- Tom

    You have not Proven that the car in the Nat Geo snippet that also shows Amos Euins is the same car we see on the corner in the Couch/Darnell films. You might be correct, but to this point you have yet to supply any proof of your claim being a fact. I use the signal light pole and/or the signage on the other pole to verify a car being the same car we see on the Couch/Darnell films. I do not see either pole on the Nat Geo/Amos Euins snippet.
     What's "large" to you may not be "large" to me. This is "eye of the beholder" territory. Leads to nowhere.
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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2025, 08:54:22 PM »
You have not Proven that the car in the Nat Geo snippet that also shows Amos Euins is the same car we see on the corner in the Couch/Darnell films. You might be correct, but to this point you have yet to supply any proof of your claim being a fact. I use the signal light pole and/or the signage on the other pole to verify a car being the same car we see on the Couch/Darnell films. I do not see either pole on the Nat Geo/Amos Euins snippet. What's "large" to you may not be "large" to me. This is "eye of the beholder" territory. Leads to nowhere.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Did you not understand James Hackerott's graphics?

-- Tom
« Last Edit: October 22, 2025, 08:55:28 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2025, 10:21:36 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Did you not understand James Hackerott's graphics?

-- Tom

        Hackerott watched the National Geographic snippet proving that he had made an error. Simple as that.

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2025, 11:10:05 PM »
Hackerott watched the National Geographic snippet proving that he had made an error. Simple as that.

Is that what he told you?

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2025, 11:50:48 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Did you not understand James Hackerott's graphics?

-- Tom

   You're asking me the above question after admitting that he even "lost" you? That's ironically funny.
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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2025, 12:08:34 AM »
You're asking me the above question after admitting that he even "lost" you?

Dear Comrade Storing,

The tree shadows?

LOL!

You do realize, don't you, that Robert Hughes filmed the TSBD entrance from the left side of the pole, don't you?

-- Tom

PS How's your "peer review" coming along?

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2025, 12:44:57 AM »
  Hackerott saw that the National Geographic film snippet proved him wrong. It's clear that is a getaway car that was deserted there on the corner. It's obvious that it was gonna make a quick (R) turn onto Elm St ASAP and then be gone. The question remaining is if those 2 guys that have been debated as being Shelley and Lovelady are actually the 2 guys that vacated that getaway car.
Mr. Storing. Where or where did I write anything about the Nat Geo film snippet? I'd like to know as I have no recollection of that. I've only adressed the side of the Elm Extension of the car in Wiegman. Not what car it was. Thanks
 

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2025, 12:44:57 AM »