A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

[Tom Graves]

   The "no car parked alongside the Island" is in reference to what we see on the WIEGMAN Film. That portion of the Wiegman Film was captured when the JFK Limo was still on Elm St.
   The car you are referencing on the Nat Geo presentation is parked in a different location. Inspector Sawyer's car which we see Euins and Brehm sitting inside, was parked with its' trunk stretching across the (L) front steps of the TSBD. The car you mention is sitting further up the Elm St Ext than the Inspector Sawyer car. The car you mention is NOT parked at the end of the Island. It is parked further down the Elm St Ext.
   Remember to use the Signal Light Pole as a Landmark. On the Couch/Darnell films, we see this Signal Light Pole as Officer Baker runs across the front of the car parked at the END of the Island.
   I believe the Hughes Film snippet showing the front of the TSBD, also shows this very same car still parked at the end of the Island. (And this is a posted, "NO PARKING ZONE"). This portion of the Hughes Film showing this same car was filmed roughly 15-20 minutes after the Kill Shot. I believe this car was abandoned at the End of the Island: (1) when Officer Smith ran toward the car/down the Elm St Ext to check the bushes, and (2) Officer Baker turned his motorcycle from Houston St onto Elm, parked his motorcycle at the curb, and then ran directly toward this same car as he headed toward the TSBD. Whoever was in that car got nervous when seeing this law enforcement activity around them, got out of the car, and distanced themselves from the car.   

Dear Comrade Storing,

You need to get a graphics program and learn how to use it.

Due to your probably warped perspective and your inability to consistently specify which side of the street you're referring to when talking about "this car" or "that car" in the Wiegman clip and/or Couch-Darnell, I have no idea what you're talking about.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

You need to get a graphics program and learn how to use it.

Due to your inability to consistently specify which side of the street you're referring to when talking about "this car" or "that car" in the Wiegman clip and/or Couch-Darnell, I have no idea what you're talking about.

-- Tom

       This car moving down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St is a very big deal. It is a new find. Understanding this discovery requires knowing the differing timelines of JFK assassination films.   
       The Wiegman Film does NOT show a car parked alongside the "Island". The Couch/Darnell films DO SHOW a car parked alongside the "Island". Wiegman was riding inside Camera Car #1. Couch/Darnell were riding inside Camera Car #3. The Wiegman film footage of the Island is roughly 20-25 seconds ahead of the Couch/Darnell filmed images of the Island. This car was traveling down the Elm St Ext during the Wiegman Filming of the Island. This same car had reached the Island and parked alongside it by the time Couch/Darnell filmed the Island. I believe the Hughes Film Snippet showing the front steps of the TSBD, also shows us this same car parked in the same spot alongside the island. This Hughes snippet was filmed roughly 15-20 minutes after the Kill Shot. Yet, this same car is still parked alongside the Island where we see it on the Couch/Darnell films. What we are seeing on the Couch/Darnell Films and the Hughes Film is a "getaway car" that was deserted alongside the Island.         

[Tom Graves]

This car moving down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St is a very big deal. It is a new find. Understanding this discovery requires knowing the differing timelines of JFK assassination films.   
The Wiegman Film does NOT show a car parked alongside the "Island". The Couch/Darnell films DO SHOW a car parked alongside the "Island". Wiegman was riding inside Camera Car #1. Couch/Darnell were riding inside Camera Car #3. The Wiegman film footage of the Island is roughly 20-25 seconds ahead of the Couch/Darnell filmed images of the Island. This car was traveling down the Elm St Ext during the Wiegman Filming of the Island. This same car had reached the Island and parked alongside it by the time Couch/Darnell filmed the Island. I believe the Hughes Film Snippet showing the front steps of the TSBD, also shows us this same car parked in the same spot alongside the island. This Hughes snippet was filmed roughly 15-20 minutes after the Kill Shot. Yet, this same car is still parked alongside the Island where we see it on the Couch/Darnell films. What we are seeing on the Couch/Darnell Films and the Hughes Film is a "getaway car" that was deserted alongside the Island.       

"This car . . . "

LOL!

There you go again!

"The Wiegman Film does NOT show a car parked alongside the "Island".

You're mistaken.

See James Hackerott's work, above.

[Royell Storing]

  Hackerott saw that the National Geographic film snippet proved him wrong. It's clear that is a getaway car that was deserted there on the corner. It's obvious that it was gonna make a quick (R) turn onto Elm St ASAP and then be gone. The question remaining is if those 2 guys that have been debated as being Shelley and Lovelady are actually the 2 guys that vacated that getaway car. 

[Tom Graves]

  Hackerott saw that the National Geographic film snippet proved him wrong. It's clear that is a getaway car that was deserted there on the corner. It's obvious that it was gonna make a quick (R) turn onto Elm St ASAP and then be gone. The question remaining is if those 2 guys that have been debated as being Shelley and Lovelady are actually the 2 guys that vacated that getaway car.

Dear Comrade Storing,

How do you know there were two guys in that in the car we see in the Robert Hughes clip and at the 08:56 mark in this video?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

How do you know there were two guys in that in the car we see in the Robert Hughes clip and at the 08:56 mark in this video?

-- Tom

   The Couch/Darnell Films show 2 Guys walking away from the car parked on the corner. I believe these same 2 guys had just gotten out of this car and were "distancing" themselves from the car.  I believe this car was their "getaway" car. 1 Shooter + 1 Spotter = 2 Guys

[Tom Graves]

   The Couch/Darnell Films show 2 Guys walking away from the car parked on the corner. I believe these same 2 guys had just gotten out of this car and were "distancing" themselves from the car.  I believe this car was their "getaway" car. 1 Shooter + 1 Spotter = 2 Guys

Dear Comrade Storing,

How is it that they dressed just like William Shelley and Billy Lovelady that day, and how is it that the one who was wearing Lovelady's shirt had a bald spot just like Billy's?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

How is it that they dressed just like William Shelley and Billy Lovelady that day, and how is it that the one who was wearing Lovelady's shirt had a bald spot just like Billy's?

-- Tom

   You're "assuming facts not in evidence". The Couch/Darnell still frames are not nearly clear enough to tell if these 2 Guys were: (1) "...dressed JUST LIKE William Shelley and Billy Lovelady", (2) "...one was wearing Lovelady's shirt, and, (3) had a bald spot JUST LIKE Billy's". The lack of detail in these still frames renders your claims to be not remotely fact based. What is a Fact is that both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testimony regarding their moving down the Elm St Ext at about 3 minutes after the Kill Shot. The Couch/Darnell fuzzy still frames showing these 2 guys were taken at roughly 30 seconds after the Kill Shot. Based on the timeline provided by Lovelady/Shelley in their own sworn testimonies means these fuzzy figures can Not be them.