A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

[Tom Graves]

Has anyone ever seen a 11/22/63 image of a "boxcar" inside that railroad yard? The "Three Tramps" were supposed to have been pulled out of a "boxcar" inside that railroad yard.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

I read somewhere that that occurred about half-a-mile away.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

  I have only heard rumors regarding specifically Where the 3 Tramps were found inside a "boxcar". Nothing official. I wonder if maybe that "boxcar" was actually a "passenger train car"? Again, I have never seen an 11/22/63 image of a "boxcar" anywhere inside the Rail Road Yard. And if you look at the 3 tramps photos, they are being marched down the Elm St Extension toward the TSBD. They are coming directly from the RR Yard where we see that string of Passenger Train Cars at the 8:55 mark on the National Geographic post above. 

[Paul J Cummings]

Chauncey Holt, identified as one of the tramps by Lois Gibson, said when he entered the boxcar that Rogers and Harrelson were already in it. He also mentioned explosive weapons in the boxcar and said they could've blown it up and none of them would have been recognized.

[Royell Storing]

The car was always there but the ladies in front are blocking most of it.
The first image below is from the above photo gallery and you can see some of the car next to the lady with the folded arms and you can see the roof a little bit to her right.
I believe the car to our left is directly in front of this car and as can be seen the perspective angle relatively shortens the length and when approximately sized, fits well within the block of obscuring ladies.



Royell's Car on the extreme left and a car directly behind, shows that the car in the above image was behind Royell's car.



In this Couch frame, the end of the car is a good match compared to the folded arm lady and the roof section as compared to the ladies in Wiegman is a similar height.



JohnM

   As we see above in the Couch Film still frame, those 2 figures are headed directly toward the Passenger Train Cars in front of them. That alleged DPD Motorcycle Cop/Haygood is also headed toward those train cars on the Darnell Film. The photos of the "3 Tramps" shows them being marched away from this very same area of the Rail Road Yard.
   Does anyone know how the ID's/Names of the 3 Tramps were attained by DPD? Were their names simply "word of mouth", or did these 3 Tramps carry ID back in 1963?       

[Paul J Cummings]

Two sets of tramps were arrested in the railroad yards. The pictured tramps are Rogers, Harrelson and Chauncey Holt. Lois Gibson identified Holt and Harrelson while the third "Frenchy" was Rogers.

[Royell Storing]

Two sets of tramps were arrested in the railroad yards. The pictured tramps are Rogers, Harrelson and Chauncey Holt. Lois Gibson identified Holt and Harrelson while the third "Frenchy" was Rogers.

      There are No 11/22/63 images of a "Boxcar" being inside the Rail Road Yard. There are 11/22/63 images of "Passenger" train cars inside the RR Yard. This raises 2 questions: (1) How far from the alleged "boxcar" did DPD walk with these 3 Tramps in order for them to be photographed in front of the Huge Gates? (2) Has a "Passenger" train car somehow been confused with a "Boxcar?   

[Paul J Cummings]

I have Chauncey Holt's book but can't access right but does describe in details the path they took to police offices.