Was the Rifle that Lt. Day carried out of the TSBD the same as in evidence?

[Tommy Shanks]

You need to look at the (unenhanced) images yourself and not rely blindly on David Josephs.

Here here, Mark. Nobody should be relying on David Josephs for anything other than Donald Trump Fan Club talking points.

[Mark Ulrik]

Here here, Mark. Nobody should be relying on David Josephs for anything other than Donald Trump Fan Club talking points.

Perhaps Michael is beginning to see the light. He has stopped talking about how convincing we should all find Josephs' graphics.

[Mitch Todd]

You need to look at the (unenhanced) images yourself and not rely blindly on David Josephs. There may be some amount of residue of what appears to be white paint, but those letters were almost certainly never painted black. The same goes for the "CAL.6,5" inscription.

The letters, numbers, and crown are the same blued finish as the metal around it. When a seasoned photographer wants to take a photo of the markings on a weapon, they often will fill the engravings with talcum powder, tempera paint, white glue, or similar light colored material so that the engravings stand out. Otherwise, they don't photograph very well at all. It looks like the FBI did exactly that when they made the detail photographs of the markings on the rifle. Josephs used negative images on his composite, so the letters appear to be very black against a grey background. In reality, they are black letters on a black background.

[Benjamin Cole]

The letters, numbers, and crown are the same blued finish as the metal around it. When a seasoned photographer wants to take a photo of the markings on a weapon, they often will fill the engravings with talcum powder, tempera paint, white glue, or similar light colored material so that the engravings stand out. Otherwise, they don't photograph very well at all. It looks like the FBI did exactly that when they made the detail photographs of the markings on the rifle. Josephs used negative images on his composite, so the letters appear to be very black against a grey background. In reality, they are black letters on a black background.

MT--Thanks for clue-ing us in. I was wondering about some of the images.

The narrative that a 7.65 Mauser was found on TSBD6, and then replaced by an M-C rifle, which was photographed carried by Lt. Day to DPD, and then another M-C rifle was subbed in, and entered as evidence...stretches credulity.

This pointless falsification of evidence operation would have required several witting participants, all of whom kept their silence forever after.

If evidence was being falsified in the JFKA, why not say LHO ordered a Mauser 7.65 and be done with it?

[Mark Ulrik]

The letters, numbers, and crown are the same blued finish as the metal around it. When a seasoned photographer wants to take a photo of the markings on a weapon, they often will fill the engravings with talcum powder, tempera paint, white glue, or similar light colored material so that the engravings stand out. Otherwise, they don't photograph very well at all. It looks like the FBI did exactly that when they made the detail photographs of the markings on the rifle. Josephs used negative images on his composite, so the letters appear to be very black against a grey background. In reality, they are black letters on a black background.

Yeah, I was kind of hoping for Michael to double down on his "dark black" markings. I've always thought that some powdery white substance was used specifically for the FBI photos (CE 541), but what about the residue seen in the NARA images? I assumed it was original factory paint, but don't really know how plausible that is.

[John Mytton]

Mr. FITHIAN. Mr. McCamy, can you give us any measurement or photogrammetric process or anything that you did to further nail down this I think vital question.
Mr. McCAMY. Yes. We made measurements, measurements on the rifle, and on the photographs to ascertain that indeed this particular chip was in the right place.
Beyond that, however, I went to the Archives and made 21 photographs of the rifle using a variety of different kinds of illumination. On those photographs, it was possible to see a large number of nicks, scratches and so on, distinguishing marks.
I then went back through all of the photographs I had mentioned to you. In many instances--I believe in 56 different instances--I was able to find markings that appear on this rifle that were on the photographs that were made back there on the day of the assassination.
So, we are very confident that this is indeed the rifle that was carried from the book depository--oh, incidentally, I can carry it farther than that.
I found distinguishing marks of this rifle on a motion picture that was made at the time the police officer picked the rifle up off of the floor of the book depository. So that I think is very convincing evidence that it is the rifle.

JohnM

[Mitch Todd]

MT--Thanks for clue-ing us in. I was wondering about some of the images.

The narrative that a 7.65 Mauser was found on TSBD6, and then replaced by an M-C rifle, which was photographed carried by Lt. Day to DPD, and then another M-C rifle was subbed in, and entered as evidence...stretches credulity.

This pointless falsification of evidence operation would have required several witting participants, all of whom kept their silence forever after.

If evidence was being falsified in the JFKA, why not say LHO ordered a Mauser 7.65 and be done with it?

I agree that shooting JFK with one rifle, then going to an immense amount of trouble to try and cover tracks by planting a completely different rifle chambered in a completely different caliber made by a completely different manufacturer makes no sense whatsoever.