Important Disclosure about William King Harvey in Recently Released Document

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

To answer your collegial question, my take is that the CIA is not in the practice of publishing names of their paid contract sources. So, very few such names have entered open-source literature.

So Clay Shaw gets a lot of hits and goes high in the algos.

Clay Shaw worked in an organization (the trade mart) that shipped goods and documents, and traveled, internationally.

It makes sense Shaw was some sort of paid CIA contract source, and perhaps even helped on some operational matters, as in shipping goods.

I cannot prove that. I doubt Shaw had much to do with the JFKA.

But as I always say, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

[Tom Graves]

TG-

To answer your collegial question, my take is that the CIA is not in the practice of publishing names of their paid contract sources. So, very few such names have entered open-source literature.

So Clay Shaw gets a lot of hits and goes high in the algos.

Clay Shaw worked in an organization (the trade mart) that shipped goods and documents, and traveled, internationally.

It makes sense Shaw was some sort of paid CIA contract source, and perhaps even helped on some operational matters, as in shipping goods.

I cannot prove that. I doubt Shaw had much to do with the JFKA.

But as I always say, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

I think it's because the evil, evil CIA never uses the nonsensical expression "contract source" except when its incompetent historical staff cobbles together some old memos in a "Chinese Whispers" kinda way.

Unless, of course, Mole Solie (whom, you will remember, JFKA CT and researcher Malcolm Blunt told Bart "The Xxxx" Kamp in September of 2021 was "All over the Kennedy Investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison") "got to" said historical staff and/or its incompetent chief, J. Kenneth McDonald.

When you go to 100:29 for this revelation, bear in mind that Blunt says "Jim DiEugenio . . . Jim DiEugenio" when he means to say "Jim Garrison . . . Jim Garrison."

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[Lance Payette]

My God, these CT loons just never give up ...

Larry Schnapf - a/k/a I'm Increasingly Thinking He's Nuts - just posted on the Other Forum:

What JFK Facts has reported is that Charles Niles was an aviator who died in  1916 so his name was being used as an alias.  Here is link to Niles wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Franklin_Niles

JFK Facts "has reported"? Reported? It's just about all you encounter when you try to research Charles F. Niles. Yes, Charles Franklin Niles was indeed a well-known aviator who crashed, which makes researching the name rather difficult. There was also a Charles F. Niles, Jr. and a Charles F. Niles III, not to mention a surprising number of other Charles F. Niles.

HOW BATSH*T CRAZY would you have to be to think that "Charles F. Niles" was being used as an alias for some FAA grunt whose name appears in federal employee directories (from as early as 1959 and as late as 1968, just by what Fred found)? The CIA assigned Buford H. Philbin the alias Charles F. Niles because ____________? Please, try to fill in the blank with something that doesn't make you sound insane.

Is the theory that this was some inside joke? Yeah, let's disguise old Buford with an alias that matches the name of a renowned aviator. Hello?

[Tom Graves]

My God, these CT loons just never give up ...

Larry Schnapf - a/k/a I'm Increasingly Thinking He's Nuts - just posted on the Other Forum:

What JFK Facts has reported is that Charles Niles was an aviator who died in  1916 so his name was being used as an alias.  Here is link to Niles wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Franklin_Niles

JFK Facts "has reported"? Reported? It's just about all you encounter when you try to research Charles F. Niles. Yes, Charles Franklin Niles was indeed a well-known aviator who crashed, which makes researching the name rather difficult. There was also a Charles Franklin Niles, Jr. and a Charles Franklin Niles III, not to mention a surprising number of other Charles F. Niles.

HOW BATSH*T CRAZY would you have to be to think that "Charles F. Niles" was being used as an alias for some FAA grunt whose name appears in federal employee directories? The CIA assigned Buford H. Philbin the alias Charles F. Niles because ____________? Please, try to fill in the blank with something that doesn't make you sound insane.

Dear Fancy Prancer Rants,

Don't you understand?

"Former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin cherishes what Larry Schnapf, Jefferson Morley, and Chester "Chad" Nagle, Jr., et al., have been doing for so many years.

-- Tom

[Lance Payette]

OK, CT loons, you have unleashed the Caped Factoid Buster in all his terrible fury ...

The Official Register of the United States – aka the Blue Book – was published every year until 1959. You can find and easily search every edition here: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/002137439.

I’m not going to spend days on this silliness, but I can tell you this:

In both 1954 and 1955, Charles F. Niles was a Deputy Security Officer in the Security Office of the Office of the Executive Director of the U.S. Civil Service Commission.

In 1958, he was the Assistant Chief of Security Investigations in the Investigations Division of the Bureau of Departmental Operations of the U.S. Civil Service Commission.

He was based in Ohio and then Virginia. He seemingly joined the Federal Aviation Agency in Virginia in 1959.

Are we done yet?

Anyone else remember Susan Powter, or am I the only one who thinks of her every time I log on to a JFKA forum?

[Benjamin Cole]

LP--

The CT'ers and the LN'ers show great imagination and initiative in bending facts and fabricating alternative realities.

I agree, Charles Niles was a real person and worked at the FAA. I seriously doubt that King Harvey would need anything from the FAA, for any reason, having to do with anything clandestine. The topic is risible.

On the other hand, the CIA historian wrote (in a formal report, not a mere memo) that Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" of the CIA.

There are LN'ers who insist that the CIA historian meant to write something else. In other words, on the very sensitive topic of Clay Shaw, who had endured a very public trial regarding the JFKA, the CIA historian made an overt error, and then never corrected the error.

Well, let's all play make-believe and patty-cake!

There are CT'ers who say JFK's "peace speech" given to college students at American University on June 10 1963 is his signature, but not his later (and much better) speech at the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.

Well, it is in the air. I suspect 95% of academic papers write the abstract and conclusion first, and then study the topic to buttress.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

 

[Tom Graves]

[A] CIA historian wrote (in a formal report, not a mere memo) that Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" of the CIA. There are LN'ers who insist that the CIA historian meant to write something else. In other words, on the very sensitive topic of Clay Shaw, who had endured a very public trial regarding the JFKA, the CIA historian made an overt error, and then never corrected the error.

What, pray tell, is a "highly paid CIA contract source," and why is it that when I google the phrase "CIA contract source," the only "hits" I get (pardon the pun) are for evil, evil, evil Clay Shaw?

Certainly, if there was such a thing as a "CIA contract source," evil, evil, evil Clay Shaw couldn't have been the only one.

Gasp . . . could he?

Boy-oh-boy, wouldn't it be something if it wasn't an error made by incompetent J. Kenneth McDonald or his staff when they cobbled together some old reports on Shaw, but probable KGB "mole" Bruce Leonard Solie (ironically, James JESUS Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior in the mole-hunting Office of Security!!!) actually fed that bit of misinformation to incompetent J. Kenneth or his staff?

Boy-oh-boy-oh-boy-oh-boy.

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

According to the CIA historian, "a highly paid contract source" was Clay Shaw.

Why internet algos do what they do...I understand in theory, but as to this particular topic, I don't know.

But, caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.