Important Disclosure about William King Harvey in Recently Released Document

[Lance Payette]

OK, CT loons, you have unleashed the Caped Factoid Buster in all his terrible fury ...

The Official Register of the United States – aka the Blue Book – was published every year until 1959. You can find and easily search every edition here: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/002137439.

I’m not going to spend days on this silliness, but I can tell you this:

In both 1954 and 1955, Charles F. Niles was a Deputy Security Officer in the Security Office of the Office of the Executive Director of the U.S. Civil Service Commission.

In 1958, he was the Assistant Chief of Security Investigations in the Investigations Division of the Bureau of Departmental Operations of the U.S. Civil Service Commission.

He was based in Ohio and then Virginia. He seemingly joined the Federal Aviation Agency in Virginia in 1959.

Are we done yet?

Anyone else remember Susan Powter, or am I the only one who thinks of her every time I log on to a JFKA forum?

[Benjamin Cole]

LP--

The CT'ers and the LN'ers show great imagination and initiative in bending facts and fabricating alternative realities.

I agree, Charles Niles was a real person and worked at the FAA. I seriously doubt that King Harvey would need anything from the FAA, for any reason, having to do with anything clandestine. The topic is risible.

On the other hand, the CIA historian wrote (in a formal report, not a mere memo) that Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" of the CIA.

There are LN'ers who insist that the CIA historian meant to write something else. In other words, on the very sensitive topic of Clay Shaw, who had endured a very public trial regarding the JFKA, the CIA historian made an overt error, and then never corrected the error.

Well, let's all play make-believe and patty-cake!

There are CT'ers who say JFK's "peace speech" given to college students at American University on June 10 1963 is his signature, but not his later (and much better) speech at the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.

Well, it is in the air. I suspect 95% of academic papers write the abstract and conclusion first, and then study the topic to buttress.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

 

[Tom Graves]

[A] CIA historian wrote (in a formal report, not a mere memo) that Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" of the CIA. There are LN'ers who insist that the CIA historian meant to write something else. In other words, on the very sensitive topic of Clay Shaw, who had endured a very public trial regarding the JFKA, the CIA historian made an overt error, and then never corrected the error.

What, pray tell, is a "highly paid CIA contract source," and why is it that when I google the phrase "CIA contract source," the only "hits" I get (pardon the pun) are for evil, evil, evil Clay Shaw?

Certainly, if there was such a thing as a "CIA contract source," evil, evil, evil Clay Shaw couldn't have been the only one.

Gasp . . . could he?

Boy-oh-boy, wouldn't it be something if it wasn't an error made by incompetent J. Kenneth McDonald or his staff when they cobbled together some old reports on Shaw, but probable KGB "mole" Bruce Leonard Solie (ironically, James JESUS Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior in the mole-hunting Office of Security!!!) actually fed that bit of misinformation to incompetent J. Kenneth or his staff?

Boy-oh-boy-oh-boy-oh-boy.

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

According to the CIA historian, "a highly paid contract source" was Clay Shaw.

Why internet algos do what they do...I understand in theory, but as to this particular topic, I don't know.

But, caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

[Tom Graves]

According to the CIA historian, "a highly paid contract source" was Clay Shaw.

Why internet algos do what they do...I understand in theory, but as to this particular topic, I don't know.

But, caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

In other words, you don't know, and nobody else, does either.


"Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions"?


I already have, dude, and I'm not buying what you, Paese Sera, Jim Garrison, Oliver Stone, Jim DiEugenio, and Linda Pease, et al. ad nauseum, are selling.

[Lance Payette]

On the Clay Shaw stuff, I would simply note that:

1. Shaw was an absolutely perfect candidate to be a "source" for the CIA's Domestic Contact Service. He would have been exactly the sort of individual they were interested in and in fact did provide some information during the relevant time period.

2. Domestic contact sources were typically not paid at all, let alone "highly paid."

3. It's hard for me to imagine what Shaw would have done, on either a contact or contract basis, for him to be "highly paid" by the CIA.

4. "Contract source" is odd terminology. There is legal terminology such as a "sole source contract," but to refer to the contractor as a "contract source" would definitely be odd.

5. I once did a considerable search for references to "contract source" and came up empty except for the Shaw stuff. HOWEVER, I did find references to "contact source" in several intelligence contexts. For example, this is from the U.S. Army's "Human Intelligence Collector Operations Manual," https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organization/150085.pdf:

Of Potential Interest as a Contact Source. On occasion, especially during stability and reconstruction operations, the HUMINT collector may identify an individual who has the potential to provide information in the future, due to his placement or access. Although the individual may not have information of immediate interest, the HUMINT collector will pass his recommendation to the appropriate office, normally the C/J/G/S2X, provided that source operations are authorized (see Chapter 5).

6. The Shaw memo is such a one-off, long-after-the-fact outlier that I lean strongly toward the interpretation that something simply got lost in translation and he was simply one of thousands of contact sources. I have no clue where "highly paid" would have come from.

[Tom Graves]

I have no clue where "highly paid" would have come from.

Gosh, maybe it's either mis-transcribed from "highly valued" or an indication of input from probable "mole" Bruce Solie?